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  1. #11491
    Quote Originally Posted by AlterX View Post
    Thank you for the suggestion, Would it tip the favour to Wind over Dark if I have the Azzazel?

    Certainly it would have to wait until the next Mtix if wind is choosen.
    Not really, tbh. Dark still looks more appealing to me there, for wind, aside of Azzy, you still want Aether/WiAtum/Frigg, not to mention that all elements 100% eidolons are kinda obsolete except for light and dark.


  2. #11492
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessa View Post
    Not really, tbh. Dark still looks more appealing to me there, for wind, aside of Azzy, you still want Aether/WiAtum/Frigg, not to mention that all elements 100% eidolons are kinda obsolete except for light and dark.
    True, Mtix for 2nd best Eidolon that overshadowed by 140% is not the best decision. I have light and fire Eidos, maybe should just get Dark to compliment light. and just farm for MLB Bethor as a holder.

    I appreciate the suggestion.

  3. #11493
    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    But does it actually work?

    Since I don't think anyone knows how exactly drop+ works.

    I forget where the source comes from, but someone did a large sample drop test (high hundreds) for no DR and 30% DR. It showed that getting magna/labros without DR is around 20-25% and with the DR is around 60-70%. It seems to be every point of DR gives you a chance for moving the rare loot by that amount. I believe in that test they also showed that Mammon's and D'Art's Snatch abilities didn't have an appreciable effect on the magna/labros drop rate. It did seem to push bronze chests to silver chests (but no internal chest scaling was seen).

    I'll look for the reference but it's a DMM player that did the testing.

    Dejnov.

  4. #11494
    Quote Originally Posted by Dejnov View Post
    I forget where the source comes from, but someone did a large sample drop test (high hundreds) for no DR and 30% DR. It showed that getting magna/labros without DR is around 20-25% and with the DR is around 60-70%. It seems to be every point of DR gives you a chance for moving the rare loot by that amount. I believe in that test they also showed that Mammon's and D'Art's Snatch abilities didn't have an appreciable effect on the magna/labros drop rate. It did seem to push bronze chests to silver chests (but no internal chest scaling was seen).

    I'll look for the reference but it's a DMM player that did the testing.

    Dejnov.
    This will be such a huge game-changer if it is true, Labros for me were like 1 out of 3 not counting purple chest, being able to double it will be very neat.

    Edited To not double post, Does anyone know when the next UE is?
    Last edited by AlterX; 08-16-2020 at 02:28 AM.

  5. #11495

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    Thank you everyone for all the previous response to my questions. I have definitely been collecting a lot of materials from raids/quests, but just don't know the best uses for each currency. What are the best ways to spend:

    Draconic Eyes
    Idea Regalias
    Magna Cravis
    Relic Fragments
    Orichalcons
    Raid Medals
    Holy Treasures?

    Also, is it best to just mass sell normal and R accessories to get enough points to buy a devil SSR one from the shop?

    Lastly, I wanted to ask about f2p gacha tickets, such as the premium,10-chain premium gacha or the "SR or higher" tickets. For all of the tickets, I don't see a "gacha details" page where they show drop rates/increased drop rates (unlike the magic jewel gachas). Do these tickets still have an increased drop rate for the himes/eidolons listed in the pictures? If so, how often do they rotate?

    Any help/response would be greatly appreciated.

  6. #11496
    Quote Originally Posted by AlterX View Post
    This will be such a huge game-changer if it is true, Labros for me were like 1 out of 3 not counting purple chest, being able to double it will be very neat.

    Edited To not double post, Does anyone know when the next UE is?
    Assuming that we are following the same schedule as DMM, a month and a bit.

  7. #11497
    I posted a couple of weeks ago, got some advice to run my dark team.

    I am running Osiris, Nefertem, Thanatos, and Agaliarept as my main, with SR Meretseger and Kali as sub. Should I swap out Agaliarept with Kali, or keep as is?

  8. #11498

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterX View Post
    Edited To not double post, Does anyone know when the next UE is?
    These forums aren't alive enough for people to see your edits. Just double post with the current activity rate.

    Anyway, the encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming events. I haven't been updating it properly for a year, but you'll still get a good idea of what is coming.
    Quote Originally Posted by bcp View Post
    What are the best ways to spend:
    Draconic Eyes are mainly for Awakening Himes. They are also needed in small quantities for T4 Souls, but Pages are the bigger bottleneck there. If you ever pile up these - and you probably won't - the other things you need them for are bricks (20 each) and Dragon Eye weapons (15 each, you need 60 to MLB). However, Dragon Eye weapons are a bit outdated in this age of triple skills, so really the only one worth it right now is Merc Axe for Water.

    Idea Regalias are for T3 Soul weapons, also needed to host Ragnarok Disasters and Guardians. Plus required in MASSIVE quantities for T4 Souls, you cannot have enough of these ever.

    Magna Cravis are for unlocking Hime Accessory slots (60 per SSR). This is very important to get your hands on the Tiara set bonus for ALL of your Hime, as it is a HUUUUUGE boost in power. You also need 100 of these to MLB a Guardian and used in small quantities to unlock T4 Souls.

    Relic Fragments are just there for you to get a few Magnas every month. Also, if you play a lot, you can exchange the excess for Ori. No other use whatsoever.

    Orichalcons are used for ALL FLBs, and also in small quantities to unlock T4 Souls.

    Raid Medals are all monthly, mainly for Pages. 100 Pages exchanges for one "Soul's Secret Book of Heresy" under Material Exchange -> Raid Quest, limited to 5 a month. This is THE bottleneck for T4 Souls. However, newer players should also consider cheap Premium Tickets, the one single Dragon Eye, maybe the 5 Dragon Eye Shards, and the Special Soul P for early Shingen unlock.

    Holy Treasures are used for Guardian stuff. You need 200 to MLB a Guardian Eidolon (BY FAR the best Eidolon you can get through grinding), and also for making a Guardian Grid. Some Guardian weapons are extremely strong for weapons that you can grind, spending 20+30 monthly on these is not a bad idea. Spending the remaining 50+75 is not recommendable unless you can solo these Guardians. Oh, and also used in small quantities for T4 Souls.

    You also didn't say anything about the final one:
    T2 Cores (Prison of [element], Idea Core), these are used mainly for Limit Breaking Hime. However, you also need them to spawn Ults, which you need to farm to get Regalia, which you need to get Magnas and Treasures. Also, used in M A S S I V E quantities for T4 Souls. In other words, these are a HUUUUGE bottleneck and you should really appreciate them as much as you possibly can. Please farm as many Disaster Experts for as many as you can be bothered, and consider Standards too. Also, exchange for these in Material Exchange -> Raid Quest using T1 Cores and Regalia Gems.
    Quote Originally Posted by bcp View Post
    Also, is it best to just mass sell normal and R accessories to get enough points to buy a devil SSR one from the shop?
    Rings suck, even if they're Ancient. So no. Now that Gems costs are gone, you might as well spend those to level up decent Accessories, such as SR Tiaras with two decent enigmas on them. You cannot ever have enough of Tiaras, after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by bcp View Post
    Lastly, I wanted to ask about f2p gacha tickets, such as the premium,10-chain premium gacha or the "SR or higher" tickets. For all of the tickets, I don't see a "gacha details" page where they show drop rates/increased drop rates (unlike the magic jewel gachas). Do these tickets still have an increased drop rate for the himes/eidolons listed in the pictures? If so, how often do they rotate?
    Tickets don't have Rate Ups. On Nutaku, neither does Jewels, but eh.
    Quote Originally Posted by DudeReally View Post
    I posted a couple of weeks ago, got some advice to run my dark team.

    I am running Osiris, Nefertem, Thanatos, and Agaliarept as my main, with SR Meretseger and Kali as sub. Should I swap out Agaliarept with Kali, or keep as is?
    If you can be bothered, why not? Kali will probably die fast and get replaced by Agaliarept. Or you can keep Kali as a sub for a quick burst of damage once things go south. So suit yourself, really.

  9. #11499
    Quote Originally Posted by praestus View Post
    Assuming that we are following the same schedule as DMM, a month and a bit.
    Oh that is quite a while, Thank you for the heads up.


    Also Thanks Slashley for the Calender link.

  10. #11500
    Now that we get Advent rematch, and my 1st advent event, is it possible for the ragnarok or ultimate difficulty to drop any weapons or rare drop?

    Also basically we just aab the Ultimate and trade for everything right?

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