Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

She's a bit RNG, but if the RNG is good, she can deal some insane dmg. The highlights are an insane debuff (30% light rst down), pretty fast (10 BG/turn from skill) and her BG skill gives these colored swords that give various buffs on burst (that's the RNG part - if you proc a rainbow sword, she gets all the buffs.) Haven't tried her myself 'cos I don't have a DMM account, but it sounds like she can dish out some serious dmg and doesn't need heal like Lugh to keep going.

Prism color and their buff values:
Red - Enthusiasm 10BG/T (Basically Zeal w/o DoT)
Orange - 50% Crit dmg, ??% Proc rate but pretty damn high in my experience
Yellow - 35%? Light dmg (Mike AW's buff misses but Durga's overwrites it, so >30% and <40%)
Green - 40% Vigor
Cyan - 50% DA
Blue - 50% TA
Purple - 10% Special Attack
Rainbow - ALL of the above

Bit of my two cent, I have never had an instance where Iris's RNG was bad. The bottom line is, none of her 7 buffs is bad. Even the seemingly 'weakest' one is a whopping 50% DA, and it's extremely rare that you get only one color several times in a row as their chances are pretty even.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

P.S. I also believe this is why, for Light, Medea is the required T4 soul to aim for.

Bear's mentioned (I think) having an 8Mil AOE attack with her. You'd need Atum and Tish for their buffs to make it happen though.

It was 11m.
That being said, it wasn't even the highest since my single target record is 5m, off element.

And no I didnt say Light is required to get Medea. I said Medea is top pick if you are competitive in Tower and Dummy regardless of element. For raids, while Medea is also relevant since her utility is also quite broken, Hektor is the top MVP stealer right now against weakness, and is the only one I seen that can steal against Shingen in an even fight.

...Welp. I grabbed the remaining jewels from Marchosias for a ten-roll and got nothing. Just 2 garbo SR eidos.
Then I grabbed the 2200 from Mastema and 400 I could get from Rahab which gave me enough for another ten-roll. My one gold ball turned rainbow, and out popped bikini Cybele! Hooray! After a loooooong string of bad luck, I needed that.

Her skills look really nice to me. Is she as good as she looks? What frame is her debuff?
My Water SSRs are now: Nike U, Ryu-Oh, Ashera, Ea, Saraswati, and Summer Cybele. Can I make a good team with this, or do I still need a filler SR like Atalante or someone?

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Welcome to the club. There're quite a few of us in that boat if I'm not mistaken.

Welcome to that club, too, there're even more of us in that one, lol. Next mtix, that's what I'm waiting for.

Welcome to that club, too... Wait, did I say that already...

She's a bit RNG, but if the RNG is good, she can deal some insane dmg. The highlights are an insane debuff (30% light rst down), pretty fast (10 BG/turn from skill) and her BG skill gives these colored swords that give various buffs on burst (that's the RNG part - if you proc a rainbow sword, she gets all the buffs.) Haven't tried her myself 'cos I don't have a DMM account, but it sounds like she can dish out some serious dmg and doesn't need heal like Lugh to keep going.

Oof. Fluffy is elusive.

Originally Posted by Bear

Prism color and their buff values:
Red - Enthusiasm 10BG/T (Basically Zeal w/o DoT)
Orange - 50% Crit dmg, ??% Proc rate but pretty damn high in my experience
Yellow - 35%? Light dmg (Mike AW's buff misses but Durga's overwrites it, so >30% and <40%)
Green - 40% Vigor
Cyan - 50% DA
Blue - 50% TA
Purple - 10% Special Attack
Rainbow - ALL of the above

Bit of my two cent, I have never had an instance where Iris's RNG was bad. The bottom line is, none of her 7 buffs is bad. Even the seemingly 'weakest' one is a whopping 50% DA, and it's extremely rare that you get only one color several times in a row as their chances are pretty even.

Damn, she sounds pretty great. I wonder where she'd fit into my team. Lugh will probably be my next Mtix, though, and if she's taking Tsukuyomi's spot, then Iris would replace...Sol AW? But she's so bloody useful!

Originally Posted by Argo

Her skills look really nice to me. Is she as good as she looks? What frame is her debuff?
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The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the SSRs.

A little weird question here,
So was it important to have those SR hime that passive give hp buff to their element?(like Venus for water,Fire Eligos for
fire etc..)
I am a little bit mental breakdown to not able to get Summer Djehuti after using all of those jewel since I am wind main and wind don't have much hp weapon along assault until garuda....
Plus she's limited... which is the main problem (unless nutaku generous to bring her back with jewel gacha)

waifu is another reason

Originally Posted by Slashley

The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the SSRs.

Oh neat, it's B frame, so she stacks with Ryu-oh and I don't need Sniper Shot anymore. But since I don't need Black Propaganda there either, I dunno what skill to put there. Ryu-oh and Nike U's debuffs clash, but unless the -50% is really important I can probably move Atalanta into a sub slot and start working on getting Herc's axe to take her place. Noice.
Don't like the BG reduction on her triple attack buff, though. Might cause more problems than it solves. Oh well.

So how does a team of Cybele, Ryu-Oh, Asherah, and Niku U up front sound? With Saraswati and Atalanta/Ea as subs?

Originally Posted by Argo

Oh neat, it's B frame, so she stacks with Ryu-oh and I don't need Sniper Shot anymore. But since I don't need Black Propaganda there either, I dunno what skill to put there. Ryu-oh and Nike U's debuffs clash, but unless the -50% is really important I can probably move Atalanta into a sub slot and start working on getting Herc's axe to take her place. Noice.
Don't like the BG reduction on her triple attack buff, though. Might cause more problems than it solves. Oh well.

So how does a team of Cybele, Ryu-Oh, Asherah, and Niku U up front sound? With Saraswati and Atalanta/Ea as subs?

Yeah thats sound pretty balanced team, but getting them (especially Cybele) might be REALLY challenging. And as you said earlier, Ryu's and Nike's debuff are in the same frame. I might run for the combination of Ryu and Aphro instead, but would lose the water atk up after Nike's burst and in order to make it in maximal performance, at least she must be in the first row though it can be covered by Asherah. And Cybele works well on GO's and ToM for trashing the mobs. But well you know how drop rates are lies right?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Djehuti

I don't see why not. Even with dual Garuda FLB you're still gonna find yourself struggling for HP.

Speaking as DMMer here. Before I was able to build a fully functional Null spear grid thanks to Pazuzu FLB this spring, my Wind team runs with 13~14k hp while my Dark Thunder and Fire all got 17~20k, despite Wind being the strongest in comparison where everything is +99. Even when I have Gaia + Azazel AW combo, I often find myself cutting it quite close on regular basis. Maybe it's just a Wind thing. So I say the more HP the merrier. Besides, Djehuti is pretty good back up as sub (blob eater and Thunder Atk down.) If you're a wind main, by all means go for it.

Originally Posted by Bear

I don't see why not. Even with dual Garuda FLB you're still gonna find yourself struggling for HP.

Speaking as DMMer here. Before I was able to build a fully functional Null spear grid thanks to Pazuzu FLB this spring, my Wind team runs with 13~14k hp while my Dark Thunder and Fire all got 17~20k, despite Wind being the strongest in comparison where everything is +99. Even when I have Gaia + Azazel AW combo, I often find myself cutting it quite close on regular basis. Maybe it's just a Wind thing. So I say the more HP the merrier. Besides, Djehuti is pretty good back up as sub (blob eater and Thunder Atk down.) If you're a wind main, by all means go for it.

Can you post a pic of your spear grid? I'm building a spear grid now with 2 Odin (still waiting for more brick), pazuzu and 1 SR, wonder what it should look like next year.

Originally Posted by nut

Can you post a pic of your spear grid? I'm building a spear grid now with 2 Odin (still waiting for more brick), pazuzu and 1 SR, wonder what it should look like next year.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

Yeah but missing a core Hime and Thunder Aphro not easy to get (not in MTix either). This is really tough for the newb to do. Best bets are Fire or Light. Pick one to main and drop Dark.


Dejnov.

Who needs Afro. Just run gun grid and have Dian carry.

:rami:

Oh and Thunder > Fire