Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Depends whether Bethor turns out to be as easy as Aratron and whether you have anything else better to farm: Bethor bow has 1% more base assault than UE sword but no pride value at all. Phantom bow is assault + stinger, correct, versus phantom sword avalanche (DATA); it's the assault on the bow not the stinger that is worth the trade though.

If you just want a more balanced grid, you can mix Bethor bows (assault/exceed) with Kyuki bows (assault/defender) then you can use the last three weapon slots for whatever, maybe Pazuzu lance for ascension if you have Azazel AW, or Garuda hammer if you want even more hp or your Odin lance for firepower.

For lance, only Odin's lance is worth bricking imo, Cu's is not. Only Labyrinth lance and Pazuzu lance are f2p if I'm not mistaken, so you either overfarm Pazuzu or need to somehow acquire more Odin lances and bricks for wind lance grid. Odin lances are very powerful, but if you're gonna spend real money, you might also consider waiting for wind Atum bows instead (still got like half a year-ish before she's out though.) Her bow is assault/defender/vigor on FLB, and if you need more filler to complete the grid, Bethor bows are decent enough versus no farmable wind lances for Odin.

So Dreamlitz does a pretty good job of summarizing the situation fairly clearly. The bow grid (guardian bows, with Wind Atum Bows or other bows) is the most straightforward and viable grid to field for Wind over the next year if you have no resources. The glaive grid (guardian glaives) actually works a bit better than a hammer grid for Wind, but there are no real Hime glaives (other than Cybele's), but you can do a full guardian grid with them (5 guardian glaives and 3 guardian bows). This is an option if you really want to farm, but may take a long time to field properly.

The other option is a Wind Arcane grid. The guardian arcane sports a hefty 15.5% ascension and 27% vigor, while you can use either of the old union event items or the new bow for your exceed. There are also three fairly decent SSR arcane items in Wind's stable: Minerva's, Aether's, and Hastur's. All provide either small or medium assault (not great, but still decent) with Hastur's being a decent choice (DefenderL, AssaultM). The arcane phantom weapon is defender vigor also.

A grid of 3 guardian bows (or UE swords,staffs), two of hasturs's arcane, 3 guardian arcanes, and the phantom arcane can give you 84% assault with guardian bows nearly 105% with UE staffs, 120%/90% exceed, 58% defender, 81%/12% ascension, and 62% vigor. Combined with GaiaAW and AzzazelAW you can have 740 to 920 hp constantly healed per round, with damage cut or defense up constantly also. (Plus Gaia's standard damage cut and guard abilities). If you can keep hitpoints up, that 62% vigor is equivalent to 120% assault giving you around 200% assault on this team.
Bonus points for fielding Bethor in your grid to up all values by another 40%. The arcane items in wind are also fairly forgiving in that they have both values at 0LB and only get stronger on FLB.


Dejnov.

Is it just me, or are you making it sound like everyone is just casually going to find multiple (MLB?) copies of very specific Hime weapons.

And you're also talking about making a 105% Assault/62% Vigor Grid, which sounds really fancy, but has the liiiiittle problem is being veeeeeeery unreliable even with Gaia. Once the first AoE Overdrive has been basically negated by Azazel and Gaia, the second one will just end your damage output. So you're gonna need to be doing content that you can end reaaaaaally fast to make proper use out of that Grid...

Originally Posted by Theon

Daily SP quests exp/ults i.e. 25AP/50 AP ones would be best options for t4 and t3 stars however drops are not guaranteed. The other ones drop t1 and t2 stars
You can also get t1 stars from gemcha
And others can be exchanged from shop

Woah, thats the best place...so many thing can spawn from gold chest there haha

Thx for responses guys, for glaives grid i had 2 copy of Cybele scissor tho (50k medal). But is it worth ? Consider most wind SSR kinda easy to DATA mostly ran with Odin Chu Titania Cybele

Originally Posted by wickedgod

Thx for responses guys, for glaives grid i had 2 copy of Cybele scissor tho (50k medal). But is it worth ? Consider most wind SSR kinda easy to DATA mostly ran with Odin Chu Titania Cybele

You'll do very well with a glaive grid. The phantom weapon is assault/TA, the guardian ones are pride /pride-defender, and cybele's are assault / defender-TA. That is extra TA (it's only 6% extra TA), but that shouldn't be an issue. If you have UE staffs and swords that can be your exceed. If not, the bows are available. All your weapons gives really decent assault (or double pride) with some defender.

You also won't need a ton of bricks (just 6) to make your grid fully MLB/FLBed.


Dejnov.

Hello, i have more question...
1. Should i farm for soul weapon, if yes which soul weapon should i get?

2. Besides mvp and vice mvp, what affect drop rate in raid? (Haven't get ssr weapon from 80+ guardian raid)

3. How to get rid of "server error" message or reduce it during raid? Its getting very annoying

4. Which light guradian raid weapon should i get?

5. How to increase max BP?

Thank you

Originally Posted by Slashley

HEs. HEs drop like candy from Guardian raids, whileas Seeds can actually be a problem.

I see, hopefully i can solo expert haha

Edit: soloable haha

Three questions for now, I guess.

1. I've got Eidolon orbs to spend - finally hit 10,000 of them so I can get a Kaiser. Question is, which one?
My main team has been Light thus far, and my God Kaiser is already broken once. I imagine a second break would be quite nice.
On the other hand, I recently got Anubis so my Darks are gonna be climbing in power. I could give one break to my no-star Evil Kaiser.
On the other other hand, I also have a growing Wind team since I got Hraesvelgr so I could get the Wind Kaiser, but it would only be the first time.

2. Lugh has been in my back row while leveling her, but she's about ready to come to the front. What should the battle order be for my Light team? Currently it's:
- Shingen
- Trish
- Michael AW
- Light Tsukuyomi
- Sol AW
- (Lugh and Eros reinforcements)
I'm thinking that Lugh replaces Tsukuyomi insofar as who to remove, I just dunno what order people would recommend I try.
I also just got Light Athena on my GSSR last night, does she have a spot in the team anywhere?

3. I totally forgot to cash in my Guild Medals from the Skill Checker battles, and I got the Imperial Chaldea to break an SSR Eidolon. Thing is, I now have two 100% eidolons, so I'm wondering who would be better to break between Anubis and Hraesvelgr.
Dark Team: Shingen, Satan AW, Chernobog, Dark Amaterasu, Osiris (Samael and Kali as subs)
Wind Team: Shingen, Cu Chulainn AW, Titania AW, Hastur, Aether (Gaia AW and Wind Poseidon as subs)
I'm thinking Wind? I know I'm missing some key players for Dark.

1. Limit breaking your Light Kaiser only gives you more stats and 10% Dark Resist. Limit breaking your Dark Kaiser gives you more stats and 10% Elem+. Getting yourself a Wind Kaiser gets you 30% Elem+ and 30% Thunder resist, at a small loss stats.

Getting the first Kaiser should always be the priority, at least for elements that you care for, IMO.

2. Can't comment, my knowledge of Light is awful. RNG has not given me jack-fooking-shit for Light, so.

3. Whatever you care for the most, really. Put it into the element that you like playing.

1. One more consideration is what you intend to farm. If you plan to farm Phul guns, wind kaiser will be very helpful.

2. I would do Shingen, Lugh, Tish, Mike AW, Sol AW. If you want to go full glass cannon MVP-racing, swap Sol out for light Tsuku even. I usually use Tish TA buff on Mike and Tish herself since that's where the burst bottleneck usually is. You should be hitting 3T burst cycle with that setup assuming you have tiara sets on Tish and Mike (actually, I don't even have Tish's slots unlocked yet and I can still hit 3T burst cycles with just Shingen/Tish/Mike/fluffy DATA buffs.) 2T burst is also possible when Shingen and/or Mike's BG gain skill is off CD. When Eros gets her AW, 1T bursts can happen, too if you hold both Shingen and Mike's BG gain - yes, literally back-to-back FB, no light Nike required.

Light Athena can be good but only off-element - her defenses are useless against DUlt and DRag. She is in theory useful against Aratron but it's pretty easy to out-heal Aratron, so I don't use her there either. I only use her in WiRag right now, and only if I manual. I used to use her with Joan against Hagith - that combo allows you to easily survive the trigger. I keep getting 3rd place with that setup though, so I don't use it anymore - I use a slightly more offensive team that actually has a chance at getting MVP or die trying.

Athena does come in handy occasionally when I need a defensive hime for GO or something. I also used her in the last dummy so I don't have to worry about stunning the dummy at the right time. She can also be used in an AAB build paired with Vishnu, but I would wait for her rebalance for that - around the end of the year, she should get fortitude at the beginning of battle and her endurance buff gets better (I forgot the exact details.)