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    just wondering, is it worth it to put odin in my wind team? her skills are-
    1. wind damage too all enemies and gauge up
    2.Increase your successive attack probability / defense down (large)
    3. Attack up according to the amount of decrease of your HP
    so first and third sounds kinda ok, but 2nd skill is....really? self defense debuff to increase her successive attack? sounds like a bad skill...

    as about my wind formation, for now i go with-
    Arthur (Ex black propaganda) - attack buff, can fill her burst gauge+ the weapon increase her own attack after burst attack
    Gaia- cut damage and cover for allies.
    Oberon- A frame attack and defense debuff and also can make enemy dizzy
    Cybele- B frame attack and defense debuff, have a skill to avoid attack so can survive overdrive attack
    Freja- can increase 1 ally's attack and def (frame B) so can increase arthur's attack on first turn with burst attack.
    she can also heal 1 ally with about 1800HP if i remember right.
    and also have maeve and cronus in sub team.

    so...is it worth to add odin to my team at all? if so instead of what kami?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
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    so first and third sounds kinda ok, but 2nd skill is....really? self defense debuff to increase her successive attack? sounds like a bad skill...--
    I got Odin myself, and I thought so too. Then I tried it out.

    The combo+ buff is INSANE. I roughly estimate her to hit 60% double, 30% triple and 10% single. Yes, it really sucks ass when she does a single attack, but it's still huge. It's even more huge when you use Berserk, like from Puck who gives double damage, or Cagliostro. Double damage + her combo+ = 4.4x damage per turn on average.

    In addition, you have Freya. Freya can give Intercept, no? Berserk + Intercept is quadruple damage. That's a lot of fun if it lands.


    Sadly though, the Def cut from Odin's skill is -50%, so she takes double damage. Thus, she's not really... valid for proper content. This will get cut to -30% roughly around June 2018. That might make Odin valid... but probably not.
    Also, your Wind team is pretty damn good, so you can't really afford to use Puck or Cagliostro.

    I'd say use an alternative team for Wind on which you can have fun with. It's extremely impressive to see Odin go wild on triple attacks under Berserk. But against anything serious? ... you probably need to just forget about her. I guess she's better than Cronus as your second sub, but that's pretty much it I think.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, by the way, Odin heals herself for 3000 damage on every Burst. That's quite the only thing she has going for her, as it synergises very well with her "gain extra Burst from damage taken" and first skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    Arthur (Ex black propaganda) - attack buff, can fill her burst gauge+ the weapon increase her own attack after burst attack
    Gaia- cut damage and cover for allies.
    Oberon- A frame attack and defense debuff and also can make enemy dizzy
    Cybele- B frame attack and defense debuff, have a skill to avoid attack so can survive overdrive attack
    Freja- can increase 1 ally's attack and def (frame B) so can increase arthur's attack on first turn with burst attack.
    Sub Zephyr for Freya. Forget about Odin. You'll want to use Andromeda for most content to make up for lack of heals. The type C ATK debuff from Zephyr will greatly enhance your endurance.

    Odin could work well with Titania, who grants a type B ATK/DEF buff. That would cancel out the DEF debuff. Otherwise, without a means to cancel out or cleanse the DEF debuff, Odin would be a liability. But overall, Odin is just a weaker version of SSR Cybele. You can tell the devs had a concept for Wind as a Burst-heavy element, but the initial implementation was pretty flawed.
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    Hey guys, which is the must have Dark SSR? I already have Amon and Susanoo, I'm looking to buy another in two months with the Miracle Tickets to run it in my Beelze team with Mordred

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pareidolia View Post
    Hey guys, which is the must have Dark SSR? I already have Amon and Susanoo, I'm looking to buy another in two months with the Miracle Tickets to run it in my Beelze team with Mordred
    there are plenty of good dark SSR kami you can pick from.
    Osiris is good as she can heal your team
    Dark amaterasu isn't obtainable with miracle ticket, so it's either SSR ticket jewels and luck for her, her skills are kinda like sniper shot+black propaganda+ self resistance to light and regeneration.
    she can cover for black propagande and sniper shot and let you use other soul/ EX skill instead.
    another good SSR that comes kinda later is tanatos that havd frame C defense debuff.
    those are the 3 that at least i'm aiming for, there are other nice dark kamihime like hades if you like.
    you can enter their paged in jap wiki and see what suits you the best, just remember that in the future the max debuff you can do is up to 50% so even if you run unleashed amon+tanatos+dark amaterasu/mordred/other soul with anuper shot it'll be 50% defense debuff
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    Sounds like Thanatos is the way to go, but we're a a few months away from getting her,
    Wasn't Osiris a Regen?
    On the next Light event I'll also spend all my jewels, I might get lucky and roll Hades, of nothing she'll be the first I get with the Miracle Ticket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pareidolia View Post
    Sounds like Thanatos is the way to go, but we're a a few months away from getting her,
    Wasn't Osiris a Regen?
    On the next Light event I'll also spend all my jewels, I might get lucky and roll Hades, of nothing she'll be the first I get with the Miracle Ticket
    osiris skills:
    1. "Dark attribute damage / enemy granting ★ turn shortening to enemy unit"
    2. "Invalidate all attacks of enemies ★ Shorten turns"
    3. "Recover HP of all ally (1100) / Burst gauge up (15)"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pareidolia View Post
    Sounds like Thanatos is the way to go, but we're a a few months away from getting her,
    Wasn't Osiris a Regen?
    On the next Light event I'll also spend all my jewels, I might get lucky and roll Hades, of nothing she'll be the first I get with the Miracle Ticket
    The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming SSRs. Osiris is a proper heal. If I were you, I'd save my Jewels for Dark Amaterasu. She is extremely good, and not available from miracle tickets.

    On Nutaku, they might release her along with Water Raphael though, screwing up your bonus modifier...
    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    They reduced the prices. But Miracle tickets are coming soon. Spending on SSR kamihime tickets now may not be wise unless you're a new player without an established element.
    Oh, so it's not a bug? Good. I was worried that it might bite me in the ass for not getting it immediately before they jack up the price.

    Really need that guaranteed ticket for Karin. God, I hope that Nutaku does the Koihime event. Chances feel slim, but.
    Quote Originally Posted by katsalia View Post
    That's true, and putting it that way, the price reduction makes sense. I already picked it up, but I got lucky with Nike Unleashed out of it (which can't be gotten from miracle ticket, right?)
    Yes she can.

    The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming SSRs. Nike isn't listed as Limited Edition and thus is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Yes she can.

    The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming SSRs. Nike isn't listed as Limited Edition and thus is available.
    Oh okay, I have no idea why I thought Nike couldn't be gotten from miracle tickets... must have misread it at some point. Thanks for correcting!

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