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  1. #141
    In their defense, R eidolons can make a decent main if their effect is worthwhile. Their hp/atk doesn't significantly weight against the total, so you can just fill the rest of the slots with the highest stats to keep overall hp/atk up. They can more than make up the difference with an effect that synergizes well with the whole team. And if the main's summon ability is worthless, then don't summon it; the main's summon ability isn't more significant than the rest of the pool, so just make use of the ones you would want. R eidolons' summon quicker though, so you could just tap them for quick jabs while waiting for the heavier hitters to become available.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBobs View Post
    Why? Isn't the lead the only one that matters in terms of buff? And I rather have a good arrangement of stat buffing/debuffing than just a bunch of small damage units which most Rs seem to be.
    Exampe: A fully capped R Werewolf has 30% Dark Attack up for the team and farmable from stages/regular gacha. If you're running several dark units, then obviously that 30% attack boost would be far more sufficient than 10% Attack/HP from Diabolos, including factoring in her damage from her skill. Since she's forever stuck at no break limit, she won't ever go pass 10%. That's why she becomes inferior.

    Regardless, I stated that "If you literally drew nothing in gacha worth using, then an option is using the strongest R Eidolons for the time being." R Eidolons do not provide any buffs using their battle skill, all they have are weak attacks. If you drew a SR/SSR with some kind of buff or debuff, by all means use it in your party, my post was in the scenario you drew absolutely no eidolons worth using.
    Last edited by Aidoru; 02-18-2017 at 03:21 PM.

  3. I just drew a THIRD SR bow I'll never use from the gacha. This is bordering on harassment, haha.

    I ended up getting Brynhild and an SR fire sword as well though, which is super helpful.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrayha View Post
    After finishing all thunder quests + subquests there is no next stage? I thought Water is next but do i need a specific lvl?
    I'm pretty sure Thunder is where the current Nutaku version ends at the moment. The DMM version does go all the way up to a light region(after water and fire), but it's obviously a year ahead of where we're at.

    I was honestly expecting the four main elements would have been covered at launch seeing as you can get an SR weapon and summon from the zone treasures, but I don't know what the DMM version was like when it launched.

    It kind of sucks for water and fire focused people, but you can still farm the raid bosses for SR Eidolons and Weapons at the very least. It's how I've been expanding my weapon grids in preparation for the events.

  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    Exampe: A fully capped R Werewolf has 30% Dark Attack up for the team and farmable from stages/regular gacha. If you're running several dark units, then obviously that 30% attack boost would be far more sufficient than 10% Attack/HP from Diabolos, including factoring in her damage from her skill. Since she's forever stuck at no break limit, she won't ever go pass 10%. That's why she becomes inferior.

    Regardless, I stated that "If you literally drew nothing in gacha worth using, then an option is using the strongest R Eidolons for the time being." R Eidolons do not provide any buffs using their battle skill, all they have are weak attacks. If you drew a SR/SSR with some kind of buff or debuff, by all means use it in your party, my post was in the scenario you drew absolutely no eidolons worth using.
    Ya I know that. I was under the impression you were talking about making an eidolon team (Subs not just main) of a single element. It's why I said "Isn't the lead the only one that matters for the buff"

  6. #146
    The benefit of a single element eidolon team would having a bunch of attacks in that element to choose from. I don't know whether the bonus elemental % from the main is applied to it though, or the himes or weapons equipped. If so, that could really add up to significant damage, esp factoring in their quick summon rates.

    But your inventory space is limited, unless you want to dedicate jewels that would be better spent on gacha draws in order to expand it. R's should still be considered expendable and temporary, but you could optimize their use while you have them.

    EDIT: Have Ice and Light Disaster eidolons been implemented? After getting Fire and 2 Lightning Disasters I started farming ice and light raids, because those are the only elements I don't have SRs for. But neither of them have dropped for me.
    Last edited by MasterE; 02-18-2017 at 04:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterE View Post
    EDIT: Have Ice and Light Disaster eidolons been implemented? After getting Fire and 2 Lightning Disasters I started farming ice and light raids, because those are the only elements I don't have SRs for. But neither of them have dropped for me.
    Yea, she's in. I have all but Wind and Fire myself.

  8. #148
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    Am I just having a bad luck streak or does today's sp quest have lower drop rate than the others? 8 runs and I haven't gotten more than 4 drops.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Am I just having a bad luck streak or does today's sp quest have lower drop rate than the others? 8 runs and I haven't gotten more than 4 drops.
    Luck has been average for me; managed to get everything I needed to fully limit break both of my Dark Kamihime today(sans the Grimoires - won't see those until the first event). Some good runs, some bad ones. Fang drops were surprisingly cooperative today though.

    (Got a couple more SR weapon drops and some Eidolon dupes from raid bosses today, so pretty decent on that front as well.)

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    im pretty clueless on the Gacha -
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