Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am hearing about people waiting to spend all their seeds on the Halloween event. Should I wait to use all gatchas until this event, or is it OK to do gatchas now?

I'm probably going to leave the game because it's just too slow and time consuming. I'm just wondering if a little bit of waiting will get me an increased chance of an SSR Hime (of which I have none).

Seeds =/= Jewels, I don't see the link between the two.

Also, if you don't have SSR Kamis, maybe you should reroll ?
Rerolling and buying tickets are the only sure ways to get SSR Kamis.

Originally Posted by cinderflame

Woah got Lilim Already? It's not even 1 Reset After event Start :O

anyways, is there any better use for Jewels other than 3k Jewels Gacha as of now? Rank 28 with no real-mono-element Team. Thinking of spending all my free Jewels for Gacha and make an Elemental Party Based on That.

yea, have her with 3 stars for now.
and well, you can use jewels to buy elixer/ energy leaf or expand your eido/ weapons slots.
but aside that i think just gacha.
if you can't find any good SSR you can always reroll for a better start.

Hey folks, new(ish) player here.
I'm sure this must be mentioned somewhere but for all my hunting I've only been able to find other people asking the same question, without answer.

Do identical Eidolon effects stack?
That is, if I select a support (friend) Eidolon that is identical to my own primary Eidolon, will I get double the effect or will one simply be ignored?
Will a primary Balrog (+20% Fire Atk) and a support Balrog (+20% Fire Atk) result in a total of +40% Fire Atk?
Will two Dragoons result in a doubly increased multi-attack rate?

What about similar or identical effects that come from different Eidolons?
Will a Balrog (+20% Fire Atk) paired with a Salamander (+15% Fire Atk) result in a total of +35% Fire Atk?

Originally Posted by Fives

Hey folks, new(ish) player here.
I'm sure this must be mentioned somewhere but for all my hunting I've only been able to find other people asking the same question, without answer.

Do Eidolon effects stack?
That is, if I select a support (friend) Eidolon that is identical to my own primary Eidolon, will I get double the effect or will one simply be ignored?

eidolon effects don't stack if you have like 2 typhon for example, you can only use 1 per turn but her atk buff lasts for 2 turns, if you use it the turn after you already used it, it'll either miss or replace so it'll last 2 turns again, but it won't stack like a bigger bonus

Originally Posted by Fives

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Do identical Eidolon effects stack?
That is, if I select a support (friend) Eidolon that is identical to my own primary Eidolon, will I get double the effect or will one simply be ignored?
Will a primary Balrog (+20% Fire Atk) and a support Balrog (+20% Fire Atk) result in a total of +40% Fire Atk?
Will two Dragoons result in a doubly increased multi-attack rate?

What about similar or identical effects that come from different Eidolons?
Will a Balrog (+20% Fire Atk) paired with a Salamander (+15% Fire Atk) result in a total of +35% Fire Atk?

Yes and yes. Not that you ever should use Balrog or Dragoon or Salamander, though. If you want to do damage, Apocalypse is the only acceptable option (well, there are Gacha SSRs which also give elemental attack). That is, at least one Eidolon has to be elemental attack.

If the Eidolon effect says "character attack" then you don't want that. You just want "Fire" like Apocalypse or Fafnir. If you have one elemental attack and you really need the HP, then a "character attack+HP" Eidolon is fine too.


The guy above me is confusing on-use with passive effects.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Yes and yes. Not that you ever should use Balrog or Dragoon or Salamander, though. If you want to do damage, Apocalypse is the only acceptable option (well, there are Gacha SSRs which also give elemental attack). That is, at least one Eidolon has to be elemental attack.

If the Eidolon effect says "character attack" then you don't want that. You just want "Fire" like Apocalypse or Fafnir. If you have one elemental attack and you really need the HP, then a "character attack+HP" Eidolon is fine too.


The guy above me is confusing on-use with passive effects.

Thanks for the quick answer.
Also, I only used those examples because they're simple and archetypal but I appreciate the extra input anyway.

New player here. How does a weakling make an intermediate level weapon page? I've read some guides, and I understand you need to participate in events to get SSR weapons, but how do you get enough strength to reach that point? What SR weapons do you grab as placeholders?

The store has a wind and fire SR weapon that gives an ATK skill, but is it worth buying?
What about farming prison disaster raids? Which weapons will they drop that has ATK up skills?
Is it more important to have a grid of high level uncapped weapons of different elements, or one with as many SRs of the same element with ATK UP skills, even if it means having less uncaps?

Sorry if I'm asking a lot. I want to understand how I should be spending my AP outside of daily quests right now. I'm reaching a point where the Advent Union battle thing is becoming a struggle to fight against really quickly...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

New player here. How does a weakling make an intermediate level weapon page? I've read some guides, and I understand you need to participate in events to get SSR weapons, but how do you get enough strength to reach that point? What SR weapons do you grab as placeholders?

You grab anything you can, really. From Advent events, you should buy all the pots, tickets and 1 copy of the Eidolon - and then whatever you can. The more copies of the Eidolon and SSR weapon you can grab, the better. Can you grab some SR weapons too? Cool. Soul Points for more Souls? Cool. Eventually, you'll start being able to do Ultimate and LMBing both the SSRs won't be a dream anymore.

Your main source of stuff as a new player will probably be Raid events, which throw a lot of various goodies at you. Hopefully that won't change in the next raid, since they're redoing the system a bit.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The store has a wind and fire SR weapon that gives an ATK skill, but is it worth buying?

The store SR weapons have really, really attack sadly. They're around 1300 atk, whileas event SRs are 1500-1800. Disaster Raid SRs are about 1500, some as high as 1700.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What about farming prison disaster raids? Which weapons will they drop that has ATK up skills?

Each one has two HP weapons and one Assault weapon.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it more important to have a grid of high level uncapped weapons of different elements, or one with as many SRs of the same element with ATK UP skills, even if it means having less uncaps?

In the long run? You'll want to specialize into one element and have LMB 10 SR+ Assault weapons for it. A couple of HP weapons is fine too.

As a new player? You have no idea what Gacha will give you, so you don't know what element you'll go. Having a varied, even if weaker, weapon grid will cover you a lot of bases.

That said, have you rerolled into SSRs? There's a rerolling thread explaining how that works. It's a huge boost to your early game team, and it might just decide your element for you right off the bat.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I want to understand how I should be spending my AP outside of daily quests right now. I'm reaching a point where the Advent Union battle thing is becoming a struggle to fight against really quickly...

Right now? If you're in a Union which is active, you should be doing Standard Lilims to help your Union get Grails. Buuuut... chances are your Union doesn't have much. Active Unions have fed their weaker members almost all rewards from three categories by now. You can't be fed the fourth "personal PP" category.

Outside of events, spending your AP on daily dungeons (limit break mats), raids (limit break mats and SR weapons) and storyline (Jewels, mats for Store) is probably a good idea.


And... I don't understand your "advent union struggle." What?

Oh, thank you for answering my questions. I didn't know the shop weapons were that weak.

Originally Posted by Slashley

That said, have you rerolled into SSRs? There's a rerolling thread explaining how that works. It's a huge boost to your early game team, and it might just decide your element for you right off the bat.

I'm happy with my current team. I've got Echidna and Jabberwock, and the login crystals got me a few SRs like Beelzebub, Triton, Sol, Krishna, and Motu. It's too bad the elements are all over the place. Honestly, I'd have rerolled if I knew about that guide before I started a week ago.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Right now? If you're in a Union which is active, you should be doing Standard Lilims to help your Union get Grails. Buuuut... chances are your Union doesn't have much. Active Unions have fed their weaker members almost all rewards from three categories by now. You can't be fed the fourth "personal PP" category.

Outside of events, spending your AP on daily dungeons (limit break mats), raids (limit break mats and SR weapons) and storyline (Jewels, mats for Store) is probably a good idea.

And... I don't understand your "advent union struggle." What?

Even though I was invited randomly into my current union, it seems like out of the only two people active, I'm the only one trying to fight Lust, or participate in the event. So every raid is a solo fight, and it feels like they're gaining more and more HP, making fights drag on really long. I'm using Sol and Nike to heal, so the raging phase isn't so bad, but it constantly saps my burst gauge, so it takes longer than it should. I'm vaguely aware I should do Lilims for power-ups, but as a pathetic excuse for a "one-man army", I don't feel they're worth the time investment if they wear off at the end of the day. Since my characters are every element, I need to also put a lot of AP into daily quests. But anyway, I'm at 14 kills, and Lust drops really nice EXP items, so it's making me stronger inch by inch.

Just like Grail power-ups vanish at the end of the day, so does Lust levels. The early levels are easy, and you should try doing as many many Experts and maybe even Ultimates while the level is low.

... well, I don't know how easy it'd be to a new player...

In any event, try to spend as much BP as possible on Lust while powering up through daily dungeons/disasters with AP. Good luck.