Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

In general, you can entirely ignore SSR Eidolons. Aside from 100% ones, they're not very good unless you get multiple limit breaks on them. If you don't pay money, you never will.

When rerolling, you should aim for, probably in order:
1. 100% Eidolon
2. 1 core Hime of some element you might enjoy
3. 2 SSR Hime of the same element

Ea + Ryu-Oh fulfills condition 1. Whether or not you want to settle for that is up to you.

When it comes to Souls, you'll just about always want to get Gawain, Cass, Mordred, Dartagnan/Joan. Preferably in that order. However, if you'll settle for the Ryu-Oh account, you'll want to go Cass and then Dartagnan, since Ryu-Oh gives the debuffs of all Gawain, Mordred and Joan. Still, get those Souls AFTER Dartagnan, you'll need them for other elements.

Actualy there is one more eidonon worth mention in addition to 100% ones - Behemoth with 30% to 3 elements and great skill - cleance 1 debuff from allies, so it's usefull not only in wind parties. But you need at least one good wind/water/holy hime to make this account realy good. 100% eidolon needs nobody else to make top tier starting account, but they have too low chance to appear in starting gachas, so don't bother about them - if you have them - it's great, if don't - just find reroll with 1-2 good himes and keep it. Rest eidolons worth nothing for starters.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Actualy there is one more eidonon worth mention in addition to 100% ones - Behemoth with 30% to 3 elements and great skill - cleance 1 debuff from allies, so it's usefull not only in wind parties. But you need at least one good wind/water/holy hime to make this account realy good. 100% eidolon needs nobody else to make top tier starting account, but they have too low chance to appear in starting gachas, so don't bother about them - if you have them - it's great, if don't - just find reroll with 1-2 good himes and keep it. Rest eidolons worth nothing for starters.

Behemoth is not worth re-rolling for. The point of re-rolling is that you get to control what you start out with to a certain degree, if you're choosing to skip a 100% eidolon for a Behemoth, you're basically wasting a huge advantage you have as someone starting the game. Behemoth will be replaced by event eidolons while a 100% eidolon will forever be used as your main eidolon for the specific element even at 0 break. And if their low appearance rates bothers you, you don't go after a 30% gacha eidolon, you go for the SSR himes you want/need instead.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Behemoth is not worth re-rolling for. The point of re-rolling is that you get to control what you start out with to a certain degree, if you're choosing to skip a 100% eidolon for a Behemoth, you're basically wasting a huge advantage you have as someone starting the game. Behemoth will be replaced by event eidolons while a 100% eidolon will forever be used as your main eidolon for the specific element even at 0 break. And if their low appearance rates bothers you, you don't go after a 30% gacha eidolon, you go for the SSR himes you want/need instead.

I newer said that you need to reroll for Behemoth - i said that reroll for Behemoth + good wind/water/light hime is very good idea for start, but still not as good as 100%.
Reroll to 100% eidolon is very long and unpredictable thing - chance is too low, just a matter of pure luck so i don't recomend to expect it at all - you may do hungreds of rerolls and never get single 100% (like me). It's much faster to start with Gaja/Sol/Amaterasu/Ctulhu/other core hime/couple of same element ssr etc. If you have Behemoth in addition to them - it's much better, you shall use her for a long time in 3 of 6 element parties. 5 maxlb event ssr eidolons - it's not a matter of days/weeks. If you are newbie - you can easy farm only raid event because your personal damage doesn't matter there unless you're trying to get MVP. Advent - you will get lb 0 to 2 with weak team, union event- you will not join good and active union as newbie for good lb eidolon (or for any eidolon), so how long should u farm 5 maxlb event eidolons? 5-6 month? And what to do before it? 944 atk on lvl40, 30% to 3 elements, usefull skill - all this makes her good ADDITION to starting team.
And even then, i dont think that Kirin (thunder 100%) is good starter - there is not so much good r/sr thunder himes so thunder is for whales only. Wind/water can make a good team even withount any ssr (for example Mordred, Oberon, Cybele sr, Itaqua, Zephyrus).

1. behemoth is only 30%, which is readily attainable with Cat Sith (R) and similar eidos for each of those other elements. and Cat Sith will have higher stats because u can MLB her.

2. agreed that Kirin is not enuf for Thunder, unless the player is willing to spend at least 2 miracle tickets, where as Water can get by with perfect SR's

That's still considered rerolling. If you draw a SSR eidolon that isnt a 100% along with some SSR kamihimes, great, but regular gacha eidolons barely factor into what you should pick if it isnt a 100%.

Originally Posted by QXZ

1. behemoth is only 30%, which is readily attainable with Cat Sith (R) and similar eidos for each of those other elements. and Cat Sith will have higher stats because u can MLB her.

2. agreed that Kirin is not enuf for Thunder, unless the player is willing to spend at least 2 miracle tickets, where as Water can get by with perfect SR's

MLB Sylph(r) (wind analog of cat) in compartion to Behemoth lb0 has a) less raw stats b) weaker skill modifier c) no cleance on skill so i used it as fodder because of her total uselessness and i think that it was a mistake to level her up (non-ssr eydolons worth keeping are disaster sr and Vine, maybe Anzu). So i still say that Hastur/Gaja/Ctulhu/Ryu-Oh/Sol/Michael + Behemoth is already a good starter account, while just Behemoth herself is not enough. Other ssr gacha eydolons (not Belial/Hraesvelgr/Rudra or at least Behemoth+ good ssr hime ) worth nothing.

is there anything else to use eidolon enhancement materials? already maxed out my eidolons and im just selling these to clear space for gem gacha.

Originally Posted by russ

is there anything else to use eidolon enhancement materials? already maxed out my eidolons and im just selling these to clear space for gem gacha.

Use on each other, as in enhance the enhance material. Higher level enhance mats give more exp when used. The trade off isn't worth it if you have something to actually level but when you have nothing to level, there's not much else you can do other than that, selling them or letting them expire.

Originally Posted by russ

is there anything else to use eidolon enhancement materials? already maxed out my eidolons and im just selling these to clear space for gem gacha.

how r u maxed out? don't u have backup eido's for other elements? i would max those too. ur off element teams might become useful one day.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So i still say that Hastur/Gaja/Ctulhu/Ryu-Oh/Sol/Michael + Behemoth is already a good starter account

No it's not. Unless you can lb her, she will be thrown away for the first event eidolon you'll meet. Her triple elem buff doesn't justify her use in any way. It is bad, can be replaced by a SR or a R while waiting for an event eido.
The only fight where her summon skill is actually worth it is Medusa. And as a support, not as a main or sub.

So no. Aim for a 100% eido, or at least 2 core SSR kami, but everything included with that is pure bonus. R, SR, weapons and behemoth.

On a side note, Anzu and disaster SR aren't worth keeping either.

Originally Posted by QXZ

how r u maxed out?

Union event