Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Your light team is a train wreck... If you're getting Sol it won't be to get a light team in the short term. Raphy... unfortunately just doesn't cut it, even though she's conceptually my second favourite hime under Sol. One could run the argument that sniper shot Raphy Sol Dike and a Vine sub does actually give 50% atk/ 45% def down, but honestly I'd refrain.

Right now it's probably a tie between your water and thunder team for which one is getting miracled (or Sol). I'm kinda biased towards water considering I like playing games of attrition for no apparent reason, but it's a waiting game at this point, you might pull something from either element that makes it more worth than the other. Snow Raphy for water (seriously, double orb removal with Cthulhu is OP) or Mammon with thunder.

Yeah I can agree with you on that, and she was my 2nd SSR as well (and I've gotten 2 dupes of her :l ) so.. it kinda makes me sad that she's not that good. she's really one of those himes that needs an awakening imo..

Right now I have 9k jewels left, and I have no idea when I'm gonna spend this again.. if I ever do decide to spend it soon there is a possibility I could get somebody new (maybe I might roll again during Mammon's release if I have saved enough)
For now, thunder is winning my attention, but that could change if I ever decide to spend my jewel load again soon. Hmm, guess I'll wait for now and come back again later when the time is right..

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

or I could go light and grab Sol --

Note that if you're thinking about paying for KH, the current Exclusive gacha is the second-best offer you'll ever get for Sol.
Just be prepared for the fact that you might need to pay considerably more than the average cost, as it is not guaranteed gacha.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

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I might be reiterating a joke for all I know, but a lot of people have been saying not to main thunder unless you have Kirin.--

Thunder has come a long way now, finally. With Amaru (SOON, no more Phoenix!!), Dartagnan's Relic weapon (to cover debuffs) and Mammon, Thunder will finally be in a good spot.

That said, Thunder has some issues still. Generally bad SRs (even worse for us since Noel is not a thing) and no healers. As such, Thunder is not really a thing unless you're Thunder SSR haven.

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

Water team members: Kikuri-Hime, Triton, SR Nike, Cthulu, Oceanus, Cupid (I also have Enkidu but all she does is damage anyway)

I don't think you've reached critical mass with any element to properly commit yet. But Water is your best bet, with Cthulhu and Triton. I'd say keep investing all around and keep all doors open, there will be plenty of Jewels before the next Miracle Ticket. Who knows, maybe you'll pull a core Hime.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

That kinda depends on your damage output. Considering thunder is basically a kill or get killed element (until the thicc nurse hime about a year later with literally all skills healing in some way), you'd better have at least some decent dps to complement the atk and def debuff...

We're gonna get a Free healing Thunder SR hime at the end of the year.

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

I just completed my dark team's main roster a few days earlier, I'm actually considering investing the 3rd miracle ticket on either my thunder team by grabbing Mammon (which I thought would never happen) or water team
or I could go light and grab Sol (even though my light team is a mess and I don't even have Diana or Light Tsuku)

would it be worth it going down this thunder path? I know this seems a bit early for a miracle ticket consultation but I'm rather curious on which team I should focus on next...

How does your main dark roster look like?

I would actually get Light Tsuku instead of Sol, if you get Diana/SSR Artemis (I think she will come after the Miracle Ticket is released) before Miracle Ticket.
If you need Heal, just use Andromeda until you get Sol...

On the other hand Fire Tower will come out at the end of the year. Therefore it wouldn't hurt to get a SSR Water Hime.
The good thing about water is that it's very versatile and you can reach def cap very easy with one core Hime already e.g. Ryu-Oh+Snipper+Atlante (C-frame 12% down)
You already have Cthullu. Now I would try to get Ryu-Oh, Asherah and Snow Raphael...

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

[SIZE=1]Normally I would actually invest another miracle ticket for my dark team, and that's for Samael but she's not gonna be around here until December or something

Why Samael?
I mean she is nice but her def down won't stuck with Satan AW. I would actually get Berith or Chernobog instead of her.
Debuffers are nice but Satan AW+Snipper is enough. Would try to get a damage dealer instead of more Debuffer.
If you don't have Satan AW then yes she is a nice replace. Otherwise go with Satan AW.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Note that if you're thinking about paying for KH, the current Exclusive gacha is the second-best offer you'll ever get for Sol.
Just be prepared for the fact that you might need to pay considerably more than the average cost, as it is not guaranteed gacha.Thunder has come a long way now, finally. With Amaru (SOON, no more Phoenix!!), Dartagnan's Relic weapon (to cover debuffs) and Mammon, Thunder will finally be in a good spot.

That said, Thunder has some issues still. Generally bad SRs (even worse for us since Noel is not a thing) and no healers. As such, Thunder is not really a thing unless you're Thunder SSR haven.I don't think you've reached critical mass with any element to properly commit yet. But Water is your best bet, with Cthulhu and Triton. I'd say keep investing all around and keep all doors open, there will be plenty of Jewels before the next Miracle Ticket. Who knows, maybe you'll pull a core Hime.

Yeah I don't really pay for anything else besides miracle tickets and guaranteed gachas, so I think I'll pass on the Sol exclusive gacha
Well that being said... I guess I'll try pulling around Mammon's release and see if I can get anyone good. If I get a water core, then I'll most likely go water, or Mammon if she decides to join me

Another reason why I'm considering investing in thunder is because surprisingly I have a good/decent grid for it (only 4 SRs left.. probably gonna be 3 soon after Amaru)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How does your main dark roster look like?

I would actually get Light Tsuku instead of Sol, if you get Diana/SSR Artemis (I think she will come after the Miracle Ticket is released) before Miracle Ticket.
If you need Heal, just use Andromeda until you get Sol...

On the other hand Fire Tower will come out at the end of the year. Therefore it wouldn't hurt to get a SSR Water Hime.
The good thing about water is that it's very versatile and you can reach def cap very easy with one core Hime already e.g. Ryu-Oh+Snipper+Atlante (C-frame 12% down)
You already have Cthullu. Now I would try to get Ryu-Oh, Asherah and Snow Raphael...



Why Samael?
I mean she is nice but her def down won't stuck with Satan AW. I would actually get Berith or Chernobog instead of her.
Debuffers are nice but Satan AW+Snipper is enough. Would try to get a damage dealer instead of more Debuffer.
If you don't have Satan AW then yes she is a nice replace. Otherwise go with Satan AW.

This is already perfect for me at the moment

(Bastet and Rangda at the back)
I dunno, I never wanted Satan AW, especially after that sweet Amon Unleashed buff in the future. I'd rather wait for that (but if she joins me for free then I don't mind placing her in at fights where she can do better than Amon)
and why Samael? She doesn't apply a def down, but a Dark RST down that's much higher than Satan AW (25% if i recall correctly), plus she has a debuff nuke like yamaraja's... is that not a good thing?

and I think SSR artemis will be around at 4th miracle ticket... though I'm not sure if I'll roll for her. If only this game gave me Diana for free I wouldn't mind grabbing Sol honestly..

about water:
yeah I've considered those options as well, If I did decide to go for water, I dunno who to choose cuz there's too many options. and since we've got a lot of good water events, their grid is also good (not maxed, but that can be fixed quickly if I decided to focus on this element next)

... you have like three Dark cores, and Pluto is plenty decent. Is there any reason you don't want to main Dark?

Originally Posted by Slashley

... you have like three Dark cores, and Pluto is plenty decent. Is there any reason you don't want to main Dark?

wait what
Dark is my main lol. It's just... I completed it for now, and maxed the grid and all that stuff. I don't think there's anyone I want to add in there right now until a few months later..

I'm just asking for some opinions on which element I should focus on improving next, since I don't know which path I should take

Osiris is good, but naming her as dark core... with our current content, she is on par with Pluto, i guess

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

Yeah I don't really pay for anything else besides miracle tickets and guaranteed gachas, so I think I'll pass on the Sol exclusive gacha
Well that being said... I guess I'll try pulling around Mammon's release and see if I can get anyone good. If I get a water core, then I'll most likely go water, or Mammon if she decides to join me


This is already perfect for me at the moment

(Bastet and Rangda at the back)
I dunno, I never wanted Satan AW, especially after that sweet Amon Unleashed buff in the future. I'd rather wait for that (but if she joins me for free then I don't mind placing her in at fights where she can do better than Amon)
and why Samael? She doesn't apply a def down, but a Dark RST down that's much higher than Satan AW (25% if i recall correctly), plus she has a debuff nuke like yamaraja's... is that not a good thing?

and I think SSR artemis will be around at 4th miracle ticket... though I'm not sure if I'll roll for her. If only this game gave me Diana for free I wouldn't mind grabbing Sol honestly..

about water:
yeah I've considered those options as well, If I did decide to go for water, I dunno who to choose cuz there's too many options. and since we've got a lot of good water events, their grid is also good (not maxed, but that can be fixed quickly if I decided to focus on this element next)

Your team isn't bad.
I would replace Amon with Satan AW and Hades with Berith or Chernobog.
Why Satan AW and not Samael? Satan AW just has the better skills and there is a synergy between her, Pluto and Osiris...
Her skills are a lot shorter and do more damage. Her DATA-rate is good. You will burst faster with Satan AW or even with Thanatos than Samael.
Personally I wouldn't use a Miracle Ticket for Samael. But if you get her with jewel gatcha and don't have Satan, then use her.
Otherwise not really.

Yeah sorry. I actually meant Dark RST down. Satan AW has -10% Dark RST down + 15% A-Frame def down.
Samael dark RST down is higher but her CD is longer...
Satan AW:
Abi 1: Def down A-Frame 15%+Dark RST down 10% CD: 6T
Abi 2: Energy drain CD: 6T
Abi 3: Orb eating + 15 Burst gauge up CD: 6T

Furthermore Samael's Dark RST down last 120sec and has CD of 8T. No Burst gauge up.
In my opinion Satan AW and Pluto will save your ass most of the time.
Satan AW also has Burst Gauge up and there is a synergy with Osiris.

And if you really main Dark then replace Hades later with Berith of Chernobog.
If you really need Attack down then use Jeanne.

That's my opinion so far but you can also ask Bear about it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your team isn't bad.
I would replace Amon with Satan AW and Hades with Berith or Chernobog.
Why Satan AW and not Samael? Satan AW just has the better skills and there is a synergy between her, Pluto and Osiris...
Her skills are a lot shorter and do more damage. Her DATA-rate is good. You will burst faster with Satan AW or even with Thanatos than Samael.
Personally I wouldn't use a Miracle Ticket for Samael. But if you get her with jewel gatcha and don't have Satan, then use her.
Otherwise not really.

Yeah sorry. I actually meant Dark RST down. Satan AW has -10% Dark RST down + 15% A-Frame def down.
Samael dark RST down is higher but her CD is longer...
Satan AW:
Abi 1: Def down A-Frame 15%+Dark RST down 10% CD: 6T
Abi 2: Energy drain CD: 6T
Abi 3: Orb eating + 15 Burst gauge up CD: 6T

Furthermore Samael's Dark RST down last 120sec and has CD of 8T. No Burst gauge up.
In my opinion Satan AW and Pluto will save your ass most of the time.
Satan AW also has Burst Gauge up and there is a synergy with Osiris.

And if you really main Dark then replace Hades later with Berith of Chernobog.
If you really need Attack down then use Jeanne.

That's my opinion so far but you can also ask Bear about it.

Hmm, Why replace Hades though? I actually think her awakening is good but if your main point is to replace her with those ones you said so I can deal more damage then I can see you mean... and the fact that her atk down gets an added combo atk rate debuff and turns AoE seems good to me (unless im wrong, feel free to correct me since whenever I read the jp wiki I just rely on google translate)

I understand what Chernobog does, but she seems to make it hard to pull off a full burst so I'm not really a fan of her right now (and besides, I don't think she'll be out on 3rd miracle ticket, which is what I'm asking for right now, and neither Cherno nor Berith will be out during 3rd ticket)
And Berith... blame google translate, I actually don't understand what she does

Well.. if I can get Satan for free, then I wouldn't mind awakening her and replacing Amon with her but until then all I can do is wait and see (I'm one of those guys that miracle'd Amon and this is why I'm reluctant to miracle another dark hime just to replace someone else I miracle'd previously and I wouldn't want to place her in the sub spot)

I can see your point with Samael though, the CDs are really long.. though that was just a plan for the 5th miracle ticket, not actually sure if I'll use it on her because who knows, another team of mine could need that ticket