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  1. #5051
    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    and again, i never said "outsustain your opponent", i said "you need damage and survivability"
    Well for starters not having enough hp is a grid problem, so nothing wrong with what i said there XD and about the outsustain part i said it cause you overate healers too much, they are just a step up, not your goal, keep that in mind.
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  2. #5052
    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    i did say i might need more defenders on my fire grid, but from what ikki was saying, i pretty much took it as "get more damage cause suvivability gets punished now", cause this was said here:
    It's not exactly wrong, tho. Just think about that bosses usually got 2 orbs. You need quite the damage to get her out of rage coz if you don't, she will keep spamming rage burst every 2nd turn. And most rage bursts aren't really something that you want to keep getting right into the face.
    Let's just leave the rag soloing aside coz the arguement that there's no need to solo it - while debatable in some cases - is valid. But think about the AQ4 boss for example. You simply can't outheal her rage burst & her rage meter is pretty big, so you need to dish out enough damage to stun her in pretty limited time. And you also need hp to avoid getting one-shot by those coz losing 3 himes each burst isn't funny. Alternatively, think about the current advent rag: if you can't beat her in several turns, you're as dead as a nit 'cause holy hell, those bursts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikki View Post
    Well for starters not having enough hp is a grid problem, so nothing wrong with what i said there XD and about the outsustain part i said it cause you overate healers too much, they are just a step up, not your goal, keep that in mind.
    current hardest content needs some form of healing, even if it's something like joan's HP regen (which is how my thunder team is still doing okay).

    i'm not making healing a top priority (i did say D'art and herc's weapons are better, which they clearly are), but little to no healing is a very quick way to die unless you have really high stats and some insane assault/elem damage values, which is why fire and thunder tend to be damage race teams.

    if healing was really a priority, i'd get andromeda with regen, toss in sol, and find a friend ygg to use with my own.... that's not the case nor was how i tried to make things seem. what i was simply saying is that healing/tanking (in other words, survivability) shouldn't be overlooked

    hell, it's why i'm not looking forward to the light ult rag, even though i JUST got osiris... that boss is pretty much one mode change the whole fight so you're gonna get nuked a lot (plus i recall it having at least 30 mil HP). and since light is my main team, i'm going after regalia like crazy for that


    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    It's not exactly wrong, tho. Just think about that bosses usually got 2 orbs. You need quite the damage to get her out of rage coz if you don't, she will keep spamming rage burst every 2nd turn. And most rage bursts aren't really something that you want to keep getting right into the face.
    Let's just leave the rag soloing aside coz the arguement that there's no need to solo it - while debatable in some cases - is valid. But think about the AQ4 boss for example. You simply can't outheal her rage burst & her rage meter is pretty big, so you need to dish out enough damage to stun her in pretty limited time. And you also need hp to avoid getting one-shot by those coz losing 3 himes each burst isn't funny. Alternatively, think about the current advent rag: if you can't beat her in several turns, you're as dead as a nit 'cause holy hell, those bursts.
    inb4 more bosses pull that one gimmack (it was either Vritra or Rahab) and nuke you non-stop cause they have only 1 orb
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    just got my awakened Hades to level 75 and finished the advent already lol
    gotta say, i like her new sprite, she looks great
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-hades-aw.png

    And I have been deceived by google translate again, I thought death spear turns AoE once she reaches level 75 but apparently not
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-deceived.jpg
    it does get that combo atk rate down added though, which is pretty nice
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  5. #5055
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeAlter View Post
    just got my awakened Hades to level 75 and finished the advent already lol
    gotta say, i like her new sprite, she looks great
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-hades-aw.png

    And I have been deceived by google translate again, I thought death spear turns AoE once she reaches level 75 but apparently not
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-deceived.jpg
    it does get that combo atk rate down added though, which is pretty nice
    I am more jealous about your Dark Loli Pluto...
    Still need to replace Beelze... (hopefully I have more luck with Chernobog...)
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    Already finished? How many HE did you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    I am more jealous about your Pluto...
    Still need to replace Beelze...
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-01dark.png

    Already finished? How many HE did you use?
    Hang in there boi, just some more weeks to go till the next miracle ticket~


    I honestly lost count... uh I think I had around 150-160ish, then add the 20 from the shop and.. 9 more from the event dailies?
    I'm left with 103 HEs, but I cleared the shop already
    I only consumed this much since I wanted to level Hades fast to 75 and I got too impatient to wait for sunday (might regret doing this later but we get a ton of HEs from events now anyway)
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  7. #5057
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeAlter View Post
    Hang in there boi, just some more weeks to go till the next miracle ticket~


    I honestly lost count... uh I think I had around 150-160ish, then add the 20 from the shop and.. 9 more from the event dailies?
    I'm left with 103 HEs, but I cleared the shop already
    I only consumed this much since I wanted to level Hades fast to 75 and I got too impatient to wait for sunday (might regret doing this later but we get a ton of HEs from events now anyway)
    Yea. August will be nice. Miracle Pluto, if I don't have her till then and awaken Satan finally.
    However I hope I can get Pluto before. I have 4 MT options anyway ^^

    True, raid events give you enough HE back and gem gatcha too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    Yea. August will be nice. Miracle Pluto, if I don't have her till then and awaken Satan finally.

    True, raid events give you enough HE back and gem gatcha too.
    Then the month after august, Trivia + Chernobog/Anubis release (o boi)
    then 2 months waiting for apocalypse reprint lol


    yeah its nice, unlike back then it was kinda hard to hoard a lot of half elixirs (I've never gone down 100 yet and I forgot when I even got this much)
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  9. #5059
    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeAlter View Post
    Then the month after august, Trivia + Chernobog/Anubis release (o boi)
    then 2 months waiting for apocalypse reprint lol


    yeah its nice, unlike back then it was kinda hard to hoard a lot of half elixirs (I've never gone down 100 yet and I forgot when I even got this much)
    I'll be happy if I can at least get Chernobog... Then I can switch Osiris/Dark Amaterasu with Chernobog for more damage
    Yea and I can finally replace my fucking Medusa with Trivia

    I am happy I started this game with the new gatcha system, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    I'll be happy if I can at least get Chernobog... Then I can switch Osiris/Dark Amaterasu with Chernobog for more damage
    Yea and I can finally replace my fucking Medusa with Trivia

    I am happy I started this game with the new gatcha system, haha.
    Guess I'll also start hoarding some jewels... doesn't help that I've been giving in to temptation after winning some weeks ago


    and yeah, back then I had to plan out when and where I would spend those elixirs on, and if I remember correctly during advents you can only redeem 3 HEs per day unlike now where u can grab 20 elixirs immediately
    nowadays its just spend them on anything I like and want to do lol
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