Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

Sooooo... you paid 30-50 bucks, you got absolutely nothing of value (since event Eidolons are by far stronger at low Limit Breaks), and you were NOT scammed?

Alright. Sounds fair enough.

In the same big purchase (I like this game, I'm willing to spend some money from time to time) I got the Kamihime 10 roll, the 2 Kamihime 5 rolls, and a Beach 10 roll. Admittedly, the Eidolon 10 roll did not go well, but in the context of my entire purchase, I think I did alright and the money was well spent.

Ifrit

Guilty Dragoon (my second, so broke her)
Mystic Code of Hammurabi [Shamash] (my second, so I broke it and received a Dragon Eye)
Scythe Gun Necro Joker [Thanatos]
Vajra Trident Sword [Acala]
Wespell Amulet [Aten]

Draupnir [Hermod] (my second, but I'd previously used the first as material)

Blade of Divine Punishment [Nemesis] (my second, so I broke it. One of my first SRs way back when, and it's still equipped...)

2x Starfish Blade [Beach Light Nergal] (got a third from a Jewel 10 roll the next day)
Akrashiel Avenger [Raguel]
Flamea Parasol [Sunlight Brynhildr]

Both as a collector and as a way of strengthening my teams, I'm satisfied with my pulls. My only complaint is that I still have no SSR water Kamihime for my secondary team after Wind being my Primary. In the last 2 months, I've gotten FOUR Dark SSRs , only 2 of which were obtained via spending money on Gaurunteed SSR 10 rolls...Why no water love? T.T The game seemed to be leading me to Water Primary early on, but I fought against it for Wind. Now all these Darks...?

a question for the EU players.
Yesterday I and my Unionmates found out we pay a different sum of money e.g. 100€ for 10k NG and some other 85€.
Does anybody maybe know why? Even with the same payment method!

Originally Posted by Slashley

Neither. Gacha SSR Eidolons are a scam. Only Kaisers (NOT as main) and P2W 100% Eidolons are used. Others can become usable at 2-stars, but how likely is it that you'll get any of them to 2-stars even if you bought every single SSR Eidolon guaranteed gacha for the next year or two?

My mlb Heca says hi.

10k+ dollars? Seriously why do you have to over exaggerate it that much? And I don't understand your terminology either. What's P2W?

Anyway Quarters, that sounds like a decent pull. Shamash wep is really good if you get more copies or brick it in the future. Thanatos is a very good hime too. Acala is good if you have nothing better and Aten is a broken R in terms of damage if you use her smartly.

So I'd say it's a decent pull

Originally Posted by Unregistered

10k+ dollars? Seriously why do you have to over exaggerate it that much? And I don't understand your terminology either. What's P2W?

Biased cause unlucky despite buying the guaranteeds probably, its funny cause 10k+ is pretty delusional when at least my heca is $140

honestly, once you pull SSR eidolons to where they give more than an event one, they aren't a scam... unless it's strictly character attack with either burst damage up or ability damage up. those character attack ones are situational...

there's a rare instance where I might stick Huanglong in a main slot (if i somehow need the HP), but MLB echidna is the 2nd highest fire elemental boost and the highest dark elemental boost in the game right now... how is that a scam?

it's luck oriented sure, but when you get the elemental atk eidolons going, two or three of your teams is covered until you (hopefully) get a 100% eidolon. those gacha ones go up to 50% (tri element) or 60% (dual element). most you get from ANY event eidolon is 50% (and that requires a full eidolon deck matching it's element) with the next closest being 45%.

then add on the fact that to overtake something like a lv100 echidna, you need to have both belial AND the 100% dark eidolon we don't have yet... otherwise your echidna still has use somewhere.

i'm not saying by any means to rush out and go gacha crazy. but what I am saying is that if you get one of those elemental gacha eidolons, it's not bad unless you have one that's stronger in all the areas they cover...

but i can agree that the character attack ones could be a scam. those need specific setups to really work

honestly, once you pull SSR eidolons to where they give more than an event one, they aren't a scam... unless it's strictly character attack with either burst damage up or ability damage up. those character attack ones are situational...

there's a rare instance where I might stick Huanglong in a main slot (if i somehow need the HP), but MLB echidna is the 2nd highest fire elemental boost and the highest dark elemental boost in the game right now... how is that a scam?

it's luck oriented sure, but when you get the elemental atk eidolons going, two or three of your teams is covered until you (hopefully) get a 100% eidolon. those gacha ones go up to 50% (tri element) or 60% (dual element). most you get from ANY event eidolon is 50% (and that requires a full eidolon deck matching it's element) with the next closest being 45%.

then add on the fact that to overtake something like a lv100 echidna, you need to have both belial AND the 100% dark eidolon we don't have yet... otherwise your echidna still has use somewhere.

i'm not saying by any means to rush out and go gacha crazy. but what I am saying is that if you get one of those elemental gacha eidolons, it's not bad unless you have one that's stronger in all the areas they cover...

but i can agree that the character attack ones could be a scam. those need specific setups to really work (and even then, 100% eidolons overtakes all of them)

Originally Posted by Ikki

Biased cause unlucky despite buying the guaranteeds probably, its funny cause 10k+ is pretty delusional when at least my heca is $140

i probably spent around that much to get SIX copies of Echidna AND Huanglong... EACH

a few were just lucky pulls, with one Echidna coming from the free pre-launch gacha

people forget luck is a factor, especially given my gacha streak of it (like randomly throwing 300 magic jewels and getting an SSR.... multiple times)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

10k+ dollars? Seriously why do you have to over exaggerate it that much?

Let's see, 200 bucks per gacha SSR Eidolon. There are 21 of them, not counting the extremely down-weighted P2W ones. So, if you want a 2-star gacha SSR Eidolon, the expected amount you need to pay is 21+21+1 for the first one. 43 times 200 = 8600 dollars. Alright, that's not really 10k+, but apparently, I wasn't all that far off either.

Not particularly mathematical, but just to give some perspective on what kind of sums you need to pay in order to get proper usage out of the gacha SSR Eidolons. Of course, getting lucky is fully possible - like finding the same Eidolon 5/5 times. Getting unlucky is also very possible, as I paid 1k bucks trying to get Karin and got a grand total of 3 SSR Eidolons

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And I don't understand your terminology either. What's P2W?

The 100% Eidolons. They are meant to be nothing but whale money-sinks, really. You're not expected to find one of them EVER from gacha without sinking boatloads of money, and in Kamihime, they're also the only things that give an outright unfair advantage over others. Thus, P2W.

Well, the "only advantage" might change with Tower and stuff like that, where the absolutely ideal team comp(s) is(are) a requirement if you intend to do well.

Originally Posted by Ikki

My mlb Heca says hi.

Either you got lucky, or you've spent an astonishing amount of money into the game. Considering how you also have Hraes, I'd say that the latter is far more likely.

But what do I know~

+burst damage wouldn't be too bad for a 2nd half of an eidolon passive. What sucks is that eidolons like Ifrit don't get +burst damage; they get +burst streak damage. Now that's an idea that's been abandoned since Kyuuki.