Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

Either you got lucky, or you've spent an astonishing amount of money into the game. Considering how you also have Hraes, I'd say that the latter is far more likely.
But what do I know~

The former, already said my heca is $140 tyvm, and ive spent the same if not less than you

edit: ive spent way less than you indeed, im at $450 (rechecked my bank acc) since i play the game from soft launch, you surpassed me just whaling for karin.

So anyway, Nandi and Marchosias introduce +character/+burst gauge increase. What do DMM players think of that sort of passive so far?

Originally Posted by Ikki

The former, already said my heca is $140 tyvm, and ive spent the same if not less than you

edit: ive spent way less than you indeed, im at $450 (rechecked my bank acc) since i play the game from soft launch, you surpassed me just whaling for karin.

Then, you're not only an outlier when it comes to gacha SSRs for getting the same one over and over, but also an outlier for having Hraes.

What are you, some sort of second form of BakaHentai who just happens to get all core SSRs out of Jewel gacha?

Originally Posted by Slashley

Then, you're not only an outlier when it comes to gacha SSRs for getting the same one over and over, but also an outlier for having Hraes.

What are you, some sort of second form of BakaHentai who just happens to get all core SSRs out of Jewel gacha?

I was lucky af with Hraes, i did post here on hbc about that pull cause it was a prem ticket (and i still lack ammy + my fire team has 2 mtix on it )

Slashey, sorry but I disagree there. As MagicSpice said, luck is a factor too and you can't say they're Pay 2 win or some random money values just because you don't have them. I have a few F2P friends who got lucky. 1 has a Rudra and 1 has a Hraes. Sure the number would be less but I've also seen people spend hundreds of dollars on the rate ups and not get Rudra or Hraes.

I personally got a Kirin from a Premium Ticket too so I feel it's unfair branding such things as Pay 2 Win just because you've been unlucky.

That can change in the future because you will keep spending (considering what you said about having spent on Karin and Guaranteeds) and you may not get them and get one from a premium ticket from some raid event or a single jewel pull.

Gacha means luck and lowered rates mean you need more luck.

Even though I still disagree with that terminology, if you really really want to brand something as such, kaisers would be more appropriate since you would need atleast 1 LB on them to make more effective use of them compared to a 100% which will be used as main.

(Also just a suggestion :- Please refer to them as 100% or 140% since DMM has those too and it can get confusing for non members who are probably speaking here for the first time. Nonetheless, it's just a suggestion)

Also just to add, I didn't quite understand your explanation (maybe I read it wrong or something)
But you don't really need every single eido before you get dupes. So I couldn't quite understand the math there.

.... Just saying, that DMM UE rank 3 some of you are so hyped about? He's in the same union as I am and is 100% F2P. Hasn't paid a single penny in this game. Couldn't even get his waifu Tsukuyomi. We have a few more like him too and they have no trouble doing these 'big numbers' like you all fuzz about. You just gotta play + grind long enough.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Please refer to them as 100% or 140% since DMM has those too and it can get confusing for non members who are probably speaking here for the first time.

I refuse. Those who are here for the first time can just ask. Whether they are 100% (to 120%) or 120% (to 140%), they fulfill my definition of P2W: an unfair advantage you are not getting without paying ridiculous amounts.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

-- I have a few F2P friends who got lucky. 1 has a Rudra and 1 has a Hraes. --

Yes, two people. Out of how many again?

Now, do tell me how realistic it is that the rest of your friends are going to get P2W Eidolons if they play... let's say two more years?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

But you don't really need every single eido before you get dupes. So I couldn't quite understand the math there.

As I said - it is possible to get lucky, and that calculation was not particularly mathematical. It was simply a demonstration of just what kind of amounts of money you need to put into the game before SSR Eidolon Guaranteed gacha starts not being a scam.

The problem with statistics is, there is no absolute answer. That's because luck is a factor. I guess the closest you can get is finding the coin-flip breaking point of 1/21 happening for the third time in X amount of tries, then duplicate X by 200 bucks. That's the more realistic "get ONE 2-star gacha SSR Eidolon" amount, but that wasn't really the point. Since at that phase most of the Eidolons in the gacha are still useless to you. 8600 dollars is roughly in the area where the Guaranteed SSR Eidolon gacha starts having actual value instead of being a complete scam. If you want to run a more accurate calculation of the value, be my guest.

And yes, Kaisers are also the jackpots of SSR Eidolons - though not as much as the P2W Eidolons. I think they're also heavily weighted down though, but sadly, I have no data on that. Anyway, even if you do get a Kaiser or two, you won't have a ridiculous advantage over those that don't. It starts being a P2W level of advantage once you start having multiple LMBs, and let me tell you, 10k bucks isn't even a start for that! Even if you don't count their down-weight!

Before we move on to have another seemingly totally futile "discussion" about this P2W eido stuff, is there anyone that agrees with Slashley's terminology?
And no, I'm not asking the usual brigade who keep pointing out Slashley's (in our opinion) silly ideas, but the rest of the people in here.

luck is a thing, so i can't really agree with it... the game has too many varying factors to really come up with the same results as someone else anyway


besides, trying to get a specific kami/eidolon, you possibly will throw a lot of money and in-game resources at the gacha... but it's not guaranteed to be that way either...


the way i see it, just use what you got. and if you do throw money at the game, just accept the outcome cause you still could have not put any star coins at whatever...

it's only a waste of money (or jewels/tickets) if you view it that way, or if the stuff you got is of no use to you whatsoever (like pulling an ifrit when you have a belial).

at the very least, if you are trying to get the "good" SSR stuff, it's stupid not to do SSR guaranteed over.... idk... normal/boosted rates? not gonna sugarcoat it, but if you don't go after the highest rates when trying for something, that's just dumb as fuck. something that WILL toss a rainbow door at you is still better than something that might not. even look at it on the free player side... you should try to throw jewels at the SSR artemis gacha over waiting til later when the chance of her is lower