Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Aidoru

I thought it was because DoT damage doesn't count towards PP, reducing your overall PP gain as well as your allies.

You're both right, DoT damage doesn't go towards PP count AND it takes animation time away, making your paralysis last less.

Just pulled water Raphael. With her, Cthulhu, Ryu-Oh, and Poseidon, do I have a SSR team? The glaring problem I'm seeing is no heals. Can that be compensated by a soul, or do I need a healer Hime?

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Just pulled water Raphael. With her, Cthulhu, Ryu-Oh, and Poseidon, do I have a SSR team? The glaring problem I'm seeing is no heals. Can that be compensated by a soul, or do I need a healer Hime?

poseidon pretty much have the same attack debuff frame as ryu-oh, you may replace her for a healer like aphrodite or unleashed nike later on.

Originally Posted by Shieun

I'd just keep the regalia atm unless you really need that one SSR weapon in your grid.

40 regalia is 14 days of hosting 3xrags... probably earlier if you exchanged the shards too, so it's not something difficult to farm...

I think it's nice to have a little boost with 30% atk or hp and maybe i'll be easier to farm regalia since I can do more damage to the boss or survive longer and more change it won't be a lost.
But if I should keep it I'll keep it. Which one should I aim for? Or is it depend on which hime I got next?

It'll depend a lot on what hime you end up getting. The basic idea is that you want to get actual use out of the relic weapons you spend regalia working on. Don't just get something for the sake of getting it. Get a weapon with the intent to make use of what's notable about it.
That said, Herc axe is usually a safe bet to invest in due to it being a likely choice in high power teams. Its burst effect being a strong defense debuff is desirable (well, Herc bow would have that too, but axe is the +elem one) and Hercules herself is great.
And since Arthur can equip axes too, gotta wonder, would Arthur even use her own relic weapons over Herc's axe? You trade in Arthur's relic weapons' burst effect (self only +10/25/35% assault buff) and either (+30% element and reducing her nuke's cooldown from 6 to 5 turns) or (+HP and making her atk buff raise assault by another 20%) for Herc axe burst effect of -15/20/25% def debuff.
(Not gonna lie, at first glance, Arthur relics' burst effect looks terrible next to Herc's)

And you do need to get the relic weapon to 1* to actually get a burst effect. So that's 60 regalia.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

would Arthur even use her own relic weapons over Herc's axe?

For the 100% owners, yes. To balance out the lack of assault vs the overflowing element dmg on the dmg formula. Especially since the game is starting to shift towards solo contents with high resistence and real raids where DPSers must learn to specialize and drop debuffers for dmg focused teams (and leave debuffing to players who chose to specialize in support).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It'll depend a lot on what hime you end up getting. The basic idea is that you want to get actual use out of the relic weapons you spend regalia working on. Don't just get something for the sake of getting it. Get a weapon with the intent to make use of what's notable about it.
That said, Herc axe is usually a safe bet to invest in due to it being a likely choice in high power teams. Its burst effect being a strong defense debuff is desirable (well, Herc bow would have that too, but axe is the +elem one) and Hercules herself is great.
And since Arthur can equip axes too, gotta wonder, would Arthur even use her own relic weapons over Herc's axe? You trade in Arthur's relic weapons' burst effect (self only +10/25/35% assault buff) and either (+30% element and reducing her nuke's cooldown from 6 to 5 turns) or (+HP and making her atk buff raise assault by another 20%) for Herc axe burst effect of -15/20/25% def debuff.
(Not gonna lie, at first glance, Arthur relics' burst effect looks terrible next to Herc's)

And you do need to get the relic weapon to 1* to actually get a burst effect. So that's 60 regalia.

But def debuff on weapon is the same frame with Hraes right?

Same frame as Hraesvelgr would be, yes. Assuming you'll be relying on your Hraes instead of a friend's, then the comparison is 3* Herc axe debuff would be stronger and should be able to apply it before 10 turns.
That said, also take into account what Bear just said.
And of course, whether Arthur even is your long term choice hinges on what the rest of your team ends up looking like.

Originally Posted by nut

But def debuff on weapon is the same frame with Hraes right?

Weapon shares its debuff/buff frame with Eidolon (AKA Summon frame), so yes, the best buff/debuff would overlap the other.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Same frame as Hraesvelgr would be, yes. Assuming you'll be relying on your Hraes instead of a friend's, then the comparison is 3* Herc axe debuff would be stronger and should be able to apply it before 10 turns.
That said, also take into account what Bear just said.
And of course, whether Arthur even is your long term choice hinges on what the rest of your team ends up looking like.

Thanks, then I'll wait until I get other soul and hime, at first I just think that at the point I get other soul like Herc or Shingen (which is 1000 SP and 1000 HSP, probably next fews month) I would be able to get enough regalia with the help of a temp weapon. And with my friend's Hraes always availabe when I need I'm not feel the need of Herc yet. I'll wait to see if I need Shingen's wp or a healer/defender soul weapon.