Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Considering it's fire, running defensive is kinda pointless...

Afaik Hercules is the single best soul for fire currently anyway.

when you say currently, you mean there gonna be a better option for fire team?

Originally Posted by nonsensei

You'd have to use Ambush either way.. I guess it's more a matter of whether you feel confident enough to go offensive. Joan goes well with fire coz she gives a survivability just enough to get fire with decent, but not game breaking damage actually make it through. You will have to cast aside the hope for a fast burst, tho. If only you had Mars...

if i had mars i could use other ex ability instead of ambush, enma can do -15% def debuff, mars another -15% attribute def debuff and with hercules burst..should be enough.
so maybe i should get her with my miracle ticket and use arc's attack debuff as ex ability so i have high attack debuff too?

Originally Posted by Slashley

When in doubt, go for Hercules. She's really fucking good these days. Herc might not ALWAYS always always be the right option to use, but she should be the best for by far the most. Joan and Andromeda give you lasting power, but start from Herc.

when you say "start with hercules" you mean to get her soul weapon first and later on get soul weapon for a different soul?
tbh, hercules may go well with my fire team and maybe water too as they have some buffs to get her nuke higher, but my other teams..kinda lack buffs :X

Originally Posted by nonsensei

Are you really dragging this further? It was already explained that your definitions are simply not matching. Rather than the word 'average', I think the problem lies with the word 'player'. A player is supposed to refer to someone who plays game. And since this is a pretty grind-focused game, the player of such game is expected to do dem grind, right? That's probably the source of the clash of views.

I think he already mentioned that he's giving advice with drawing out the most of what one has access to on his mind. Obviously, that player's advice won't be cut for a casual. That's it.

I don't think I was but if it seems that way then my bad. It was just a reply to Magic's post with the previous discussion as an example.

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

when you say "start with hercules" you mean to get her soul weapon first and later on get soul weapon for a different soul?
tbh, hercules may go well with my fire team and maybe water too as they have some buffs to get her nuke higher, but my other teams..kinda lack buffs :X

I mean, get the Axe and always first do the content with Hercules. If you failed, or more likely if you cut it too close for your preferral, then consider more defensive options like Joan or Andro.

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

if i had mars i could use other ex ability instead of ambush, enma can do -15% def debuff, mars another -15% attribute def debuff and with hercules burst..should be enough.
so maybe i should get her with my miracle ticket and use arc's attack debuff as ex ability so i have high attack debuff too?

No, if you had Mars, you could safely go all-out with Shingen(Ambush). That's the usual choice for fire mains with meta or close enough meta team if I'm not mistaken. You can alternatively go for Herc axe as well, but that will delay your 50% def debuff till burst.

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

when you say currently, you mean there gonna be a better option for fire team? buffs :X

The debatable comes when Shingen's relic arrives, since it then becomes kind of a balance between both of these girls down the road. Honestly, I don't have the best gauge for your current scenario, but in line with Slashley's idea, I'd advocate Herc.

Considering miracle ticket just got released figured I'd ask again - sorry for being so obnoxious just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth if I'm going to buy something >_<. Anyway question is who would be optimal kamihime given my current line-up:

Water
Shingen, Aphrodite, Asherah, Sarasvati, Ryu-Oh
Thinking maybe someone to replace Sarasvati or Aphrodite, but not sure who would actually help with that or how much of a boost it would really be

Wind
Herc, Cu Chulainn, Azazel, Gaia, and Oberon (also have Iblis and Remial)
Kinda like shotgun style, but know I'm not close to that yet, but would any 1 hime really make any massive difference for this comp due to it kinda being all over still?

Dark
Herc (?), Pluto, Amon (Unleashed), Thanatos, Beelzebub/Lu Bu/ whoever for SR
Haven't really played with my dark comp much as my grid is garbage, but it would be pretty cool to have a good dark comp. Satan? I know someone said Amon U and Thanatos will have same category def debuff soon, which effectively would mean 2 useful SSRs so would one more really make/break this comp or just make it a little better?

Sorry again for being a pain and thanks for any and all advice!

Originally Posted by Saeleyna

Considering miracle ticket just got released figured I'd ask again - sorry for being so obnoxious just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth if I'm going to buy something >_<. Anyway question is who would be optimal kamihime given my current line-up:

Water
Shingen, Aphrodite, Asherah, Sarasvati, Ryu-Oh
Thinking maybe someone to replace Sarasvati or Aphrodite, but not sure who would actually help with that or how much of a boost it would really be

Wind
Herc, Cu Chulainn, Azazel, Gaia, and Oberon (also have Iblis and Remial)
Kinda like shotgun style, but know I'm not close to that yet, but would any 1 hime really make any massive difference for this comp due to it kinda being all over still?

Dark
Herc (?), Pluto, Amon (Unleashed), Thanatos, Beelzebub/Lu Bu/ whoever for SR
Haven't really played with my dark comp much as my grid is garbage, but it would be pretty cool to have a good dark comp. Satan? I know someone said Amon U and Thanatos will have same category def debuff soon, which effectively would mean 2 useful SSRs so would one more really make/break this comp or just make it a little better?

Sorry again for being a pain and thanks for any and all advice!

Not sure how you missed it... but there's a miracle ticket thread for this.

Your dark comp seems to be the best you have by far in terms of hime comp. As things stand right now, the only 2 options off the top of my head that are practical to boost your dark further would be either Satan to replace Amon, or Susanoo/ Osiris to replace your SR slot. Susanoo is the more likely pick IMO, considering you'll be able to hit way harder with her skill set, and that Satan, while blatantly better than Amon with her awakening, doesn't exactly offer so much more extra from an overall standpoint, not until Amon's def break gets changed to C frame about 10 months down the line. Take this with a HUGE grain of salt because I'm by no means a dark main, nor do I actually know dark at all.

Water is probably your next best team setup, although next best option to m-tix...? Debatable. Having Asherah Ryu-Oh is already a step in getting a good water team. I would personally recommend switching Shingen to Hercules while going for Snow Raphy to replace Sarasvati so you get the full def cap. Your current setup isn't too bad, however, so that's why I'm not sure you would get the most bang out of your buck with the m-tix...

As for wind, SSR Cybele might fill in the gap for your SR slot, freeing up your B frame with a better sniper shot... and honestly there's not more to it short term.

Tl;dr, priority for m-tix: dark > water = wind.

I stress though, do not act on this advice until you gather more opinions.

Sorry honestly didn't see the miracle ticket thread - I'll move this to there. Sorry about that.

So is the 45% Amaru better to main than Huanglong?

I still don't get this whole element/character thing lol. Also, does Ixion ever beat Amaru? Ixion seems situational for burst teams.

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Originally Posted by HugMeTender

So is the 45% Amaru better to main than Huanglong?

I still don't get this whole element/character thing lol. Also, does Ixion ever beat Amaru? Ixion seems situational for burst teams.

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depends on how strong your assault values from your grid is... the lower they are, the more useful the character attack will be (unless it's a 100% eidolon who pretty much doubles your damage)

far as i know, if you can reach 90% assault from skill levels, you won't need huanglong... you'll be better off with Amaru as a main...

still would not toss huanglong out though, as her stats are high being a gacha eidolon and she can extend stun duration, so she's not bad in the sub slots

be sure to factor in totals from your main and friend effects though... my dark team barely has 40% assault, but benefits more from a friend with at least 50% dark element atk cause my main is a 60% dark/fire echidna