Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

The attack stat you see listed for a character is just raw attack (weapon atk + 20% bonus for matching weapon type(s) + eidolon atk + 10% bonus for matching element)
It won't include the assault/character type bonuses from weapon skills. It won't include the element type bonuses from main eidolon/relic weapon.

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

So I have max leveled (for current limit breaks) all my Eidolon and I've already got a full inventory of R enhance materials... Should I just sell them and keep the SR enhance? I discovered than leveling them doesn't stack exp gain additively.

The exp gain isn't worth leveling the enhance mats in regular scenarios but if you have nothing else to level and need some inventory space, then you do that over selling them unless you really need to the room. Don't bother break limiting them though as that'll use gems. Selling isn't worth it when you're only 10 gems per item unless you literally have no other options.

Don't forget you can always enhance kamihimes with weapons to level them if you have excess weapon mats and that items in your gift box can stay in there forever if located in the no expiration tab.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I really don't get it guys...how come an overall ATK 36k does around the same damage output as an overall ATK 45k? I mean I wanted to test out something on equipment about Weapon Skill (full skill but lower ATK) VS Overall ATK (Full ATK but lower skill). And both kinda do the exact same damage...where does the final damage actually come from?

Mix of the both. Simplified: damage = base atk (stats) * assault (from weapon skill/char atk eidos) * ele damage (from ele eidos, ele advantage, etc.)

So 40k attack (as shown for the KH in the edit window) with 0% assault will do the same damage as 20k attack with 100% assault. Both are important, but leveling your assault weapons is usually the fastest way to get stronger, since increasing the base stats usually takes some time (max broken event SSRs, accessories, +99s, etc).

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

So I have max leveled (for current limit breaks) all my Eidolon and I've already got a full inventory of R enhance materials... Should I just sell them and keep the SR enhance? I discovered than leveling them doesn't stack exp gain additively.

Once you are at this point, I'd just sell everything. You'll easily be able to max any Eidolon you come across just from Gem Gacha alone now.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I really don't get it guys...how come an overall ATK 36k does around the same damage output as an overall ATK 45k? I mean I wanted to test out something on equipment about Weapon Skill (full skill but lower ATK) VS Overall ATK (Full ATK but lower skill). And both kinda do the exact same damage...where does the final damage actually come from?

While you were given the short answer by others, I've made a damage calc for this.

Here comes another wave of questions from the neediest person on this thread (will +rep accordingly xD)

1. I'm farming the light zone's sub quests to gain the mats to MLB the light SR in the shop. This will give me another assault weapon (which I figure is better than base SSR weapons). How high should I level up this weapon's skill? Or is leveling up SR skills taboo?

2. Shamash is interesting with her whole counter thing and dishes out HUGE damage compared to my other Hime when she does. Is she worthwhile? I don't see much on her in terms of the Light SSR hierarchy.

3. I now have 11 silver books. Thinking of maxing Diana since I'm using her in my current team and saving the other 6 for if I pull a "high-priority" Light SR.

4. Things have really slowed down after we hit about 160 ult. Any tips or tricks to progress other than "just be OP?"

5. How are you guys?

Skill leveling an SR assault in order to accomplish what you want to do in the near future is perfectly fine. How high should you go? Well, some would say 20, others would say lower. What it comes down to is this: you must understand that at some point in the future, an SR will get replaced by an SSR. How far off into the future that will be varies. So you're internally making guesstimates of how much you'll actually utilize this weapon until it's replacement time as well as weighing the value of the resources needed (both the fodder weapons themselves as well as your time).

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

2. Shamash is interesting with her whole counter thing and dishes out HUGE damage compared to my other Hime when she does. Is she worthwhile? I don't see much on her in terms of the Light SSR hierarchy.

3. I now have 11 silver books. Thinking of maxing Diana since I'm using her in my current team and saving the other 6 for if I pull a "high-priority" Light SR.

4. Things have really slowed down after we hit about 160 ult. Any tips or tricks to progress other than "just be OP?"

2 - Current Shamash is not one of those game-breaking OP units that will carry your team but she is very useful against boss that loves single target attacks or just DATAs a lot, as well as GO (high level solo quest) where there are strong mobs. Much later though she will receive a buff that not only increases the dmg of her counter, she also gets a 100% charge down as burst effect. At that point she becomes one of the best offensive pseudo-tank for Light team for end game.

3. Max Diana if you want to do serious Light team.

4. Para-Train

Originally Posted by Bear

. she also gets a 100% charge down as burst effect.

This on DMM, Nutaku just decided on their own that burst effect things are a myth.

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Here comes another wave of questions from the neediest person on this thread (will +rep accordingly xD)

1. I'm farming the light zone's sub quests to gain the mats to MLB the light SR in the shop. This will give me another assault weapon (which I figure is better than base SSR weapons). How high should I level up this weapon's skill? Or is leveling up SR skills taboo?

2. Shamash is interesting with her whole counter thing and dishes out HUGE damage compared to my other Hime when she does. Is she worthwhile? I don't see much on her in terms of the Light SSR hierarchy.

3. I now have 11 silver books. Thinking of maxing Diana since I'm using her in my current team and saving the other 6 for if I pull a "high-priority" Light SR.

4. Things have really slowed down after we hit about 160 ult. Any tips or tricks to progress other than "just be OP?"

5. How are you guys?

The only thing in zone mats shop worth mentioning is Vine - dark eydolon with -def debuff. If your main element is light then it will be easy to farm her to MLB. She will help you to get 50% debuff cap in many situations. Zone mats weapons/eydos have terrible stats comparing to disaster/event gacha sr so they even don't worth mentioning. Just get some HE with this mats, there nothing else usefull there. Try to do disaster raids lvl 50 every day if possible - disaster assault SR are good fillers for a long time. Unfortunately there is no water/light ultimate disaster for now.
Leveling up assault sr skill is not a taboo, but must have. Just pick the weapons that can be MLBed, like event/disaster assault ones and do SLV20. For example, i'm using 3xlvl85 disaster bows and some assault event sr in my wind party and trying to get them all to slvl20 because i don't have many SSR and i advice you to do the same. If you don't have good veapons from your main element - you may use some off-element SSR as placeholder. Assault SR is 13% bonus at lvl 20 and is twice cheaper then SSR.
About choosing who to MLB- Sol is 100% choice, event don't think. You need to select hime with good boost to 2-nd skill or awakenable hime. Awakened Sol is most stupid and degenerative idea of dev team ever, because it nerfes to abyss every non-Sol heal hime in the game. Osiris/Seth/Nike U - they are even not as near powerfull as Sol now. Atum is not so terrible, but do you know why? because she can revive Sol.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

The only thing in zone mats shop worth mentioning is Vine - dark eydolon with -def debuff. If your main element is light then it will be easy to farm her to MLB. She will help you to get 50% debuff cap in many situations. Zone mats weapons/eydos have terrible stats comparing to disaster/event gacha sr so they even don't worth mentioning. Just get some HE with this mats, there nothing else usefull there. Try to do disaster raids lvl 50 every day if possible - disaster assault SR are good fillers for a long time. Unfortunately there is no water/light ultimate disaster for now.
Leveling up assault sr skill is not a taboo, but must have. Just pick the weapons that can be MLBed, like event/disaster assault ones and do SLV20. For example, i'm using 3xlvl85 disaster bows and some assault event sr in my wind party and trying to get them all to slvl20 because i don't have many SSR and i advice you to do the same. If you don't have good veapons from your main element - you may use some off-element SSR as placeholder. Assault SR is 13% bonus at lvl 20 and is twice cheaper then SSR.
About choosing who to MLB- Sol is 100% choice, event don't think. You need to select hime with good boost to 2-nd skill or awakenable hime. Awakened Sol is most stupid and degenerative idea of dev team ever, because it nerfes to abyss every non-Sol heal hime in the game. Osiris/Seth/Nike U - they are even not as near powerfull as Sol now. Atum is not so terrible, but do you know why? because she can revive Sol.

About awakening targets, gaia, svarog, and titania are what i hear about the most...

of course go after Sol ASAP cause she does rip the game a new one, but gaia (absurd defense), svarog (absurd support with decent damage), and titania (burst builds like her) aren't bad choices either.

also awakened thor is so-so, but if her enhanced stun sticks.... 30 seconds of free moves for everyone


and actually, I think Atum is the only means of reviving Souls.... Andromeda's skill can bring Sol back, but if the user dies.... Atum is the only saving grace