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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The goal is to be able to solo ultimate raid. Also, when I start a ragnarok raid, most of the time I have to solo that for the first 10 mins anyway so going full offense wont work.

    And if I have to, I can change ambush/sniper shot into shingen's 20 burst gauge EX skill and use hraes anyway, nothing of value is loss

    Both aether and frigg have that team crit buff, which didnt stack with cybele's. So I wonder if hastur's atk buff and damage benefits me more than cybele
    My take on it is Cybele benefits you better in the long run because of that god damned guaranteed combo, it's too good to pass up since burst gen, compared to just a 20% buff. Hastur is kinda replaceable in a wind meta team anyway.

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    That's Water Tower. You skipped Fire Tower, which was on November 30th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The goal is to be able to solo ultimate raid. Also, when I start a ragnarok raid, most of the time I have to solo that for the first 10 mins anyway so going full offense wont work.

    And if I have to, I can change ambush/sniper shot into shingen's 20 burst gauge EX skill and use hraes anyway, nothing of value is loss

    Both aether and frigg have that team crit buff, which didnt stack with cybele's. So I wonder if hastur's atk buff and damage benefits me more than cybele
    Uhhhhh... if by UL raid you mean using a single same team for every element, that ain't happening because you need specific utilities for ones like WaUL and DUL, and judging from what you're suggesting, you need to be aware that crit doesn't work on non-weakness targets. You're better off dropping Frigg (who has nothing else offensive other than her replaceable debuff) and bring both QB and Hastur for some effective dmg instead. But if you just wanna solo Thunder UL, then you don't need anything fancy. She's a pushover. Use whatever combination you like. Bring Hraes or Hanuman, w/e.

    As for Rags, I don't know what kind of power your team is running, but if you are those who are strong enough to contribute MVP tier dmg, you shouldn't gimp yourself by taking debuffing role. Soloing the first 10 mins? It doesn't matter. You shouldn't be soloing them in the first place. More importantly, these Rags have high enough res that your debuffs are gonna miss like half the time anyway. At best, you fight long enough to ready up an FB and you stop there and wait, because once those leechers drop in, you can drop the boss at full force. (Plus, it's not like Wind doesn't have a particular strong attacker who comes with an AoE debuff.) But if you aren't one of those, then sure, just bring whatever you like. Still don't recommend soloing too many turns though. Weakening yourself before the fight even started is just not efficient.

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    @Bear,

    can you tell us what you think of Chernobog, the current Dark SSR? does she have a role in the future meta?

    thanks!

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    hi, i'm trying to figure out which soul weapon will be the best for both my light and dark teams, can someone help me with it?
    first of, those are my light and dark teams:
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-unknown.png
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-unknown.png
    now, for light team i pretty much though about either hercules or shingen.
    michael can help me with quick burst, and after she gat awakened it'll be even faster, add shingen's burst buff and it can be high damage there.
    on the other hand, with god kaiser+michael+others buff, hercules nuke can be nice too.
    i were also suggested to use morgan for light team, give tsuku the triple attack and then rampage, but i'm not sure how good it'll be compared the other 2.
    so which soul you think will be better for my light team? (it doesn't have to be anyone from those 3 though)

    about dark, i'm actually thinking about morgan there.
    i lack a healer in my team, so even if it's just 1 ally at time, she can still heal.
    also, satan and thanatos have higher chance to deal combo attack, so if i give someone else guaranteed triple strike along them, rampage can deal a nice amount of damage.
    and if i miracle ticket chernobog then it would be even better, imagine her 150% self attack+morgan's attack buf+ pluto attack&attribute attack buff+mii's attack buff+kaiser dragoon buff all in rampage and guaranteed triple strike
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    Do you have by any chance Light Gabriel?

    I decided for now to stick with Shingen on my Light team which is nearly the same as yours with the exception of Gabriel instead of Sol (Sub excluded now, I have Anteros and Djehuti there).

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-screenshot_8.png

    So far I have pretty good results in regards to Burst (Gabriel Atk Buff + Diana Atk Buff + Michael Buffs + God Kaiser buffs) aswell as Burst building thanks to Gabriel and Michael. Herc is always an option, that's for sure when you have some extra buffs.

    Nontheless, even without Gabriel you should be safe and fast enough in BG gaining with what you have, so Shingen is still solid thanks to Michael.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoshira View Post
    Do you have by any chance Light Gabriel?

    I decided for now to stick with Shingen on my Light team which is nearly the same as yours with the exception of Gabriel instead of Sol (Sub excluded now, I have Anteros and Djehuti there).

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-screenshot_8.png

    So far I have pretty good results in regards to Burst (Gabriel Atk Buff + Diana Atk Buff + Michael Buffs + God Kaiser buffs) aswell as Burst building thanks to Gabriel and Michael. Herc is always an option, that's for sure when you have some extra buffs.

    Nontheless, even without Gabriel you should be safe and fast enough in BG gaining with what you have, so Shingen is still solid thanks to Michael.
    i don't have light gabriel, and to be honest i forgot what she actually does, not that it changes much when i don't have her.
    yup, sounds easier to build burst gauge with both michael and shingen in the team,especially after michael awakening (have to wait for..4 months or so?)
    both her and hercules are pretty much the best otions for me now, either way i think i'll use sniper shot as ex ability, so hercules w/pf isn't much of option for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    hi, i'm trying to figure out which soul weapon will be the best for both my light and dark teams, can someone help me with it?
    first of, those are my light and dark teams:
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-unknown.png
    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-unknown.png
    now, for light team i pretty much though about either hercules or shingen.
    michael can help me with quick burst, and after she gat awakened it'll be even faster, add shingen's burst buff and it can be high damage there.
    on the other hand, with god kaiser+michael+others buff, hercules nuke can be nice too.
    i were also suggested to use morgan for light team, give tsuku the triple attack and then rampage, but i'm not sure how good it'll be compared the other 2.
    so which soul you think will be better for my light team? (it doesn't have to be anyone from those 3 though)

    about dark, i'm actually thinking about morgan there.
    i lack a healer in my team, so even if it's just 1 ally at time, she can still heal.
    also, satan and thanatos have higher chance to deal combo attack, so if i give someone else guaranteed triple strike along them, rampage can deal a nice amount of damage.
    and if i miracle ticket chernobog then it would be even better, imagine her 150% self attack+morgan's attack buf+ pluto attack&attribute attack buff+mii's attack buff+kaiser dragoon buff all in rampage and guaranteed triple strike
    As for light, Herc nuke cap is 700k, that should be feasible even with only her own buffs, so that's not something to consider, in my opinion. I usually go with Herc when asked for recommendation for light hero, but light is so slow that you could also make Shingen burst alone first & then along the whole team.. with PF. Shingen is the endgame hero, but if you don't have anything against farming one more hero weapon later on, I'd take Herc coz you don't even have the advantage of having a free EX with Shingen (since you'd need Sniper for 50% def down).

    As for dark, I've also seen some recommending Morgan, but you're throwing away PF like that. And compared to what wind can get out of her rampage, I'm not convinced going for her with dark is worth it. I'd go with Shingen instead as usual. Your team is fast enough to keep up with her, so I don't see the reason why not.
    Also, the situation you suggested in the last part is not realistic. You'd want Morgan to have the guaranteed TA to be able to keep up with your team. Morgan is fun to play around with for beeg numbers, but realistically, after the 1st cycle of rampage, she becomes a burden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN View Post
    hi, i'm trying to figure out which soul weapon will be the best for both my light and dark teams, can someone help me with it?
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    When in doubt, go with Hercules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    When in doubt, go with Hercules.
    If you don't want to answer the question then don't do it.
    Look at his dark team and you say go with Hercules... Shingen would be better obviously, she has better snyergy with Dark and his team is fast enough.

    Next time you either don't give an advice or read his question... I am already annoyed with your "When in doubt, go with Hercules."
    That depends a lot of your team too if you use Herc or Shingen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Next time you either don't give an advice or read his question... I am already annoyed with your "When in doubt, go with Hercules."
    That depends a lot of your team too if you use Herc or Shingen.
    That just means that you're not doubting. It's not rocket science.

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