Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

With the jewel gacha, it'll only be the featured kamihime who get the boosted rate.

If you're looking at only water SSRs, then you'll pretty much be rolling for water Osiris and then Vohu Manah. Vohu Manah's pretty good... and also the next water SSR after water Osiris. And she gets released next February. Why yes, there is a ~4 month gap there with no water SSRs. Then a couple of months after Vohu Manah is Lakshmi. Then ~2.5 months after Lakshmi is water Cybele. Both water Osiris and water Cybele are limited.

You'll hear a lot of good things about water Osiris, she's not a bad one to go for as well. And you might as well, since she's LE. Water Cybele looks like she's designed for a Morgan build, but I'm not so sure how that works with how water is currently.

Vohu Manah and likely Lakshimi will be very important additions to your water team in the future, since as it stands now the 2 things keeping that element afloat are debuff slaves and Asherah, and debuffs will lose their place as powercreep content gets even more powercreep. Shiva AW would also help out some in that regard.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

You'll hear a lot of good things about water Osiris, she's not a bad one to go for as well. And you might as well, since she's LE. Water Cybele looks like she's designed for a Morgan build, but I'm not so sure how that works with how water is currently.

Vohu Manah and likely Lakshimi will be very important additions to your water team in the future, since as it stands now the 2 things keeping that element afloat are debuff slaves and Asherah, and debuffs will lose their place as powercreep content gets even more powercreep. Shiva AW would also help out some in that regard.

I will correct you a bit Cobble:
- You will use Lakshmi only in a damage build. She is too much of a suicide KH.
- Later you will replace Asherah with Shiva AW. Asherahs CD are too long espically her party buff and Shiva AW is stronger. You can use it for every Burst cycle, with that short CD. Shiva AW nuke damage after burst will be enough to compesate for those burst boost from Asherah and her nuke has short CD.
- Vohu Manah will finally allow the heavy debuff element water to remove one debuff KH for a damage dealer or a different KH.
- Water Osiris is okay... but not really needed, you can live without her too.
- Water QB is good but you can live without her too. Ryu-Oh and Vohu Manah are enough.

Water next year: Shiva AW, Vohu Manah, Ryu-Oh/Water QB & last spot depends on content either a dmg Cut KH, Damage dealer (Lakshmi) or Sarsawati for faster burst.

It's not like it matters what you save your Jewels for. With Nutaku bonus modifier, you won't draw what you want.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I will correct you a bit Cobble:
- You will use Lakshmi only in a damage build. She is too much of a suicide KH.
- Later you will replace Asherah with Shiva AW. Asherahs CD are too long espically her party buff and Shiva AW is stronger. You can use it for every Burst cycle, with that short CD. Shiva AW nuke damage after burst will be enough to compesate for those burst boost from Asherah and her nuke has short CD.
- Vohu Manah will finally allow the heavy debuff element water to remove one debuff KH for a damage dealer or a different KH.
- Water Osiris is okay... but not really needed, you can live without her too.
- Water QB is good but you can live without her too. Ryu-Oh and Vohu Manah are enough.

Water next year: Shiva AW, Vohu Manah, Ryu-Oh/Water QB & last spot depends on content either a dmg Cut KH, Damage dealer (Lakshmi) or Sarsawati for faster burst.

PS: Shingen with BG ex-skill or you can also run Hercules+PF then you can drop Ryu-Oh/Water QB for a different KH.
Tbh Water next year will be more fun then currently.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

PS: Shingen with BG ex-skill or you can also run Hercules+PF then you can drop Ryu-Oh/Water QB for a different KH.
Tbh Water next year will be more fun then currently.

You could really say that for many elements too tbh, especially more so light.

Your insights to water help a lot, but it also tells me that the meta just completely powercreeps to the new set of himes like crazy, maybe even more so than with the other elements.

Originally Posted by Slashley

It's not like it matters what you save your Jewels for. With Nutaku bonus modifier, you won't draw what you want.

15k jewels.

Only got Girimekhala, don't remind me.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

You could really say that for many elements too tbh, especially more so light.

Your insights to water help a lot, but it also tells me that the meta just completely powercreeps to the new set of himes like crazy, maybe even more so than with the other elements.

Not really. The only new KH for water is Vohu Manah.
Everything else is the same. Just that you don't need Asherah anymore with Shiva AW and tbh I wouldn't MTix Asherah unless you want to improve water now. Otherwise use it for a different element.

I forgot to mention that Water QB isn't good for burst builds. Instead you should use Ryu-Oh or Cthulhu with Vohu Manah.
She is only good with Morgan. Otherwise don't use her for burst build unless you have cleanse.

And no, it's light who will change a lot in the future.
Burst+DMG Build: Micha AW, Lugh, Iris and Trish.
Ofc there are different kinds of Burst builds for light but that one above is just ridiciulous.

Originally Posted by Laventale

15k jewels.

Only got Girimekhala, don't remind me.

You're not even expected to find a SSR Hime with that few pulls, much less what you want...

But you are right with Vohu Manah the meta for water changes a lot.
You don't need to have Cthulhu+Ryu-Oh+Snow Raphy anymore if you want to save Shingens ex-skill.
Get Vohu Manah + Cthulhu/Ryu-Oh and then you can use your MT for Shiva next summer.
A complete change in comparison with todays water team.

I'm needing an assault hime for my water team, and am curious as to which one I should whale for when the next miracle comes around. I like Ash's + burst, and also Ryu-oh's +1 overdrive. Tough choice. I'm hoping the gatcha gods will be kind and make the choice for me before the miracle comes, but if that doesn't happen, which should I choose? Right now I'm running SA Raphael, Aphro, Cthulu, SSR Nike, Posiedon and Triton.