Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Dais

Wtf, I was rerolling again today to see if I could get anything better and I got 100% lightning Kirin+100% light Managarmr on the same account :O

Just play with that account, its insane to get 2 100% eidos with reroll.

Originally Posted by Dais

Wtf, I was rerolling again today to see if I could get anything better and I got 100% lightning Kirin+100% light Managarmr on the same account :O

Really, 100% eidolons make too much a difference. I'm starting out as well, I got Rudra (100% water) and though i did get a SSR water kamihime, it was the only one of that element I got and it seems to be a meh SSR (Neptune). My team has her, Nike and the Soul as water units, one fire sr hime and one lightning hime. Been playing the story and I can tell you that the water units outdamage any unit even if they have elemental advantage or the enemy resists water dmg.

Btw, it seems to me that wind, light and dark 100% eidolons aren't as good as fire, water and lightning, considering you have to get a full roster of same element eidolons to get the 100%, you don't have as much freedom picking eidolons for their summon ability.

And finally, the real reason I'm posting right now xD, I need some advice. I don't consider myself a whale but I don't mind spending money when there is a good deal. I took advantage of the black friday gold deal at nutaku and with it I pulled on the black friday step up banner and the water element banner, having almost no water units and a water 100% eidolon I felt it was a good chance.

Units of note from different elements than water I got doing all that were fire SSRs himes Dakki and Mars, and lightning SSR Thunderbird. Now, I still got enough coins to pull from two 3000 coins banners. The way I see it I got these choices:

1) pull from the lightning banner to finish getting a team for farming water more easily
2) pull from the wind banner to start getting a team to cover for my main team weakness
3)pull from the 1 time only SSR eidolon guaranteed Gatcha I guess I have as a new player and depending on what I get there maybe my other pulling option becomes clearer.
4) pull from the fire banner, just because I already got 2 SSRs (that seems to be decent ones, not sure). Maybe I even get lucky getting a Belial?
And finally, 5)just pull one of the above or nothing at all, and save the coins for later (within 6 months)

Sorry for the huge post but like I said, I don't consider myself a whale so I try to use as best as I can the few times I do spend money, and thanks for any input

Btw, it seems to me that wind, light and dark 100% eidolons aren't as good as fire, water and lightning

lol?

Anubis orb removal summon effect? Hrae def down summon effect? not good as fire water and thunder?

wind do not need full wind eidos btw

Originally Posted by MajinLuffy

Now, I still got enough coins to pull from two 3000 coins banners.

The highest priority pulls are SSR Kamihime Gatcha (3000-5000g) and Miracle tickets (5000g, next one available at Christmas). Use your remaining gold on those. Miracle tickets in particular are pretty essential if you want to build a good team with your +100% eidolon. SSR Kamihime Gatcha has more of a cumulative effect over time and is good for those who want to build teams for multiple elements and leverage elemental advantage.

Originally Posted by MajinLuffy

-- I don't consider myself a whale but I don't mind spending money when there is a good deal.--

Gambling is never a good deal. If you're going to do a pull on each of those elements, then what's the difference pulling the normal pay-gacha six times?

Nothing. (Okay fine, you get an extra SR. Wow.)

It's a bad, bad deal if you think about it for a second. But of course, the way the shop is set up is meant to amaze you and make you think as if you're getting some sort of deal. Please, think before you spend.

Only the Black Friday 10 SC deal can be a "good" deal because it's basically nothing for... nothing. If you HAVE loaded up SC into your account (like the 98 bucks one which leaves you with an awkward amount), you're literally not losing out on anything. Beyond the first step though, it's a bad deal again - you're paying 30 bucks for a 50% chance of wasting your money (SSR Eidolons, since you'll basically never find a 100% one).

The only "good" deals are Miracle Tickets, because you know what you're getting. Is it worth 50 bucks for you to get the SSR Hime you want? Up to you. But that's BY FAR the best value for money you can get. After that, it's the exclusive Gachas. On average 100 bucks for the exclusive SSR in that gacha. These are run very rarely, and they're still gambling - you might get nothing even after spending 400 bucks, so be careful about that. And after that, the only thing even remotely worth it is the SSR Hime guaranteeds. 30 bucks for a fair chance of getting something useful.

Everything else is just pure gambling and thus purely a waste of your money. If you have more IRL money than what you spend, go ahead - knock yourself out.

I have a section in my guide devoted to optimal use of real money. This is derived from calculations I ran in my Gatcha Calculator (Toolbox), which is in turn based on extensive data on rates collected from a combination of reroll data and whale inventories.

how do the ennance accesory materials works exactly?

is there a point to lvl up these materials before REAL accesories?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

is there a point to lvl up these materials before REAL accesories?

All Tiaras are REAL accessories. I don't think that "Ancient SSRs" will be much of an upgrade over literally any half-decent Tiara. Even R quality Tiaras.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

how do the ennance accesory materials works exactly?

Beats me. I wish a certain someone would update their Accessory calc.

Accessory enhancers gives double exp of their tier.

For example:

A typical lv1 R accessory normally gives 100 exp (150 with matching element), the R enhancers gives 200 exp
A typical lv1 SR accessory normally gives 200 exp (300 with matching element), the SR enhancers gives 400 exp

No idea if this exp doubling affects the leveling bonus. Not enough inventory space to keep tons of them around for testing.

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

lol?

Anubis orb removal summon effect? Hrae def down summon effect? not good as fire water and thunder?

wind do not need full wind eidos btw

Oops, my bad about the wind eido.
I didn't mean that their summon effects are worse or that they suck as eidos, just that considering they all have some summon effect besides dmg, light and dark eidos feel worse than the others because you need a whole roster of same element eidos to get the 100% dmg passive. Which is the most important reason to get them in the first place. So you would be filling your eidolon roster with whatever eido from the same element you get without caring if its summon effect is good or not.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The highest priority pulls are SSR Kamihime Gatcha (3000-5000g) and Miracle tickets (5000g, next one available at Christmas). Use your remaining gold on those. Miracle tickets in particular are pretty essential if you want to build a good team with your +100% eidolon. SSR Kamihime Gatcha has more of a cumulative effect over time and is good for those who want to build teams for multiple elements and leverage elemental advantage.

I see, yeah, I guess kamihimes are also better because you don't need extra copies to get their full strength so unless it's a 100% dmg eido (which are incredibly rare, i know, i rerolled a lot xD) it's better to wait for event eidos you can farm and fully limit break. Christmas being pretty much right now and not planning to spend more money on this game so soon, yeah, wait for miracle ticket it is. Thanks!

And well, when I said a good deal I meant it was a better deal than how normally is. It's not like I never intended to spend money on the game and the banners amazed me and I broke my bank account for them. I did get more gold for my money than the normal nutaku rate, I also got more magic jewels than normal when changing the gold to coins. Also, I didn't pull on the banners expecting to draw a specific unit. I just saw the black friday banner as a good opportunity to get more good units faster for less coins (which I did) and the water banner to improve my water roster. Considering I only had 2 water himes, was still getting everything except water himes from the gatcha and there doesn't seem to be a water based event soon, I also got what I wanted.

Anyway, I raaarely try pulling for specific units with money because I know how bad the rates are, and considering how this game seems to work I don't see myself spending much more money in the future when I already have a decent team because I see spending money in these types of games as getting quick boosts, and here it seems it gets less effective the stronger you are because, well, you'd need specific units at that point.