Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Yes, but not the way you think.

You get the passive only from the main slot eido. That's where the first 100% goes to. There's another main slot eido that is exclusively friend only slot, and that's where you can stick at 2nd 100% eido... from your friend list. Therefore, any extra 100% you get should go into LBing.

Oh, so the sub eidolons dont give any passives at all? Sub eidolons should just be dmg focused or something? I'm guessing this applies with weapons as well? Such as being able to put any element weapon in your sub for dmg only, since it wont give passives?

Originally Posted by Dais

Oh, so the sub eidolons dont give any passives at all? Sub eidolons should just be dmg focused or something? I'm guessing this applies with weapons as well? Such as being able to put any element weapon in your sub for dmg only, since it wont give passives?

Usually eidos with higher stats for subs unless they have a good active that is worth it. Weapons dont work like that, all sub weapons skills work and thats where most your power comes from so dont go with a rainbow weapon grid.

Originally Posted by artista

Usually eidos with higher stats for subs unless they have a good active that is worth it. Weapons dont work like that, all sub weapons skills work and thats where most your power comes from so dont go with a rainbow weapon grid.

Okay whew. I guess I need to clear up my Eidolon party since I have like 4 dulluhans in my sub party, lol.

I am a new player who has a great reroll to start with and I need a little help with my M tix choice. As I am still new and don’t get understand all of the nuances I’d hate to spend it on the wrong kamihime! I have a dark team, these are the dark hime that I have
-Susanoo
-Nephtys
-Amaterasu
-Manes
-Paimon
-Ereshkigal

I am thinking either Satan or Hades might be a good place to start.

Thanks for the help! \m/

Originally Posted by MaL1c1oU5

I am a new player who has a great reroll to start with and I need a little help with my M tix choice. As I am still new and don’t get understand all of the nuances I’d hate to spend it on the wrong kamihime! I have a dark team, these are the dark hime that I have
-Susanoo
-Nephtys
-Amaterasu
-Manes
-Paimon
-Ereshkigal

I am thinking either Satan or Hades might be a good place to start.

Thanks for the help! \m/

You can mtix Satan for def debuff or Pluto cause shes overall good and will stick to your team forever. Hades i wouldnt recommend, there are better priorities.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

This is really elitist-sounding--dismissing those who have different goals or priorities as "irrelevant". Not everyone aspires to be in the top 10 or wants to dedicate most of their free time to this game. This sort of mentality causes the population that doesn't share these goals--which is, frankly, the vast majority--to tune out the thought leaders in the community. Because to them, opinions like this make the community leaders "irrelevant".

Misunderstood intention. What I meant by relevant was simply having a good enough grid to continue tackling content without any trouble. And mind you, future content simply favours the element advantage more simply by nature of there is only so much damage you can deal/ take. There really isn't a good phrasing for this. Maybe "don't want to be frustrated with difficulty" works.

Think of it this way. Focusing on a single element all the time limits your options to whatever that element gives you, as opposed to going for multiple when you have the resources. Keyword being you have the resources. Because as I link to the 2nd paragraph of the previous statement, there's only so much you can do for your grid for one element before you get capped. What to do next? 1. Whale. 2. Get another element setup.

The key point is this: nobody can dictate how to play the game. But when giving advice... I'd prefer giving the most optimal one. It's too difficult to account for a singular playstyle at any one time, not especially if the player doesn't plan to commit.

Edit: An extra titbit. All future tower content missions have 1/3 of their medal weight geared towards elemental advantage. Uhh... weigh this as you will.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

What I meant by relevant was simply having a good enough grid to continue tackling content without any trouble

What does this mean? What assumptions about activity level and resources does this make? If you have a good enough grid for every element, does that mean you can "tackle future content without any trouble"?

there's only so much you can do for your grid for one element before you get capped. What to do next? 1. Whale. 2. Get another element setup.

3. Take the time and effort you saved and do something else with it. Perhaps something other than playing this game.

when giving advice... I'd prefer giving the most optimal one

What's optimal for you might be a waste of limited resources for someone else.

All future tower content missions have 1/3 of their medal weight geared towards elemental advantage. Uhh... weigh this as you will.

Assume you're a top player who earns all 15k possible Tower medals per event. That leaves you with 2.5k medals to spend per element. Now suppose a single-element player earns 5k medals because he can't clear all content and misses out on the elemental advantage bonus most or all of the time. Which player has the most medals to spend on the element they regularly use?

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

What does this mean? What assumptions about activity level and resources does this make? If you have a good enough grid for every element, does that mean you can "tackle future content without any trouble"?


3. Take the time and effort you saved and do something else with it. Perhaps something other than playing this game.


What's optimal for you might be a waste of limited resources for someone else.


Assume you're a top player who earns all 15k possible Tower medals per event. That leaves you with 2.5k medals to spend per element. Now suppose a single-element player earns 5k medals because he can't clear all content and misses out on the elemental advantage bonus most or all of the time. Which player has the most medals to spend on the element they regularly use?

1. I originally meant it to target the higher commitment players or basically veterans, considering that the person you replied to was Slashley.

See, the thing is that KP isn’t really something that’s newbie friendly. The raids advents and stuff are all set difficulty in a sense, but having newbies catch up to a level where let’s say they can clear GO without ripping their hair off... requires a least some commitment. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

The way I see it people play this game for 2 reasons. 1. For lewds (thank god for the players, thanks Eliont and xellosp) and 2. Because it’s fun. And when someone plays the game for reason 2... I would thonk it’s reasonable to assume they wanna get good at the game... which means commitment. Casuals probably wouldn’t drop by the forum in the first place.

Basically when I use the word optimal: fast, efficient progression. That just means grid setups btw. I can’t say what you do with your himes considering it’s RNG... unless miracle tickets. Team comps? Sure, that’s a question mark but again it’s what they have.

Which brings me to... (just a point skip first)

3. Event resources aren’t really that hard. Well, depends. Advents are a struggle for newbies, so that gets a pass. UE... unions. Point taken. Raids? Just gotta catch on that you can leech 250/100 and that’s clear. But of course, again, that’s newbies only, and you tailor your guide to them, I don’t have an issue. Still, when they’re capable you might as well tell them to collect all the good stuff while they can. And if it comes to whale stuff that’s a case by case basis.

2. Uh. Sure. Spend your time that way, I don’t exactly have problems with it. You should have an idea what trade off happens with that line of reasoning though. sometimes you can do both tho

4. Uh...? I’m pretty sure most would agree on the brick being the optimal pick (do you have the shop list?)... considering it’s otherwise only accessible to whales. If you don’t get 10k points, you save them and get more from the next tower... and buy the brick. If you’re a casual playing the game... tickets or jewels??? I dunno. It’s actually easier to advise someone who wants optimal setups (according to the fastest progression).

Now the brick does bring the idea of a main element still. Won’t deny. That goes by a case by case basis as well.

I think I’ve gone off the radar tho, so I’ll drop my point here to be clearer: just get all the event weps. It’s not that hard unless you don’t want spend more than half an hour a day on the game.

Originally Posted by Dais

Okay whew. I guess I need to clear up my Eidolon party since I have like 4 dulluhans in my sub party, lol.

yeah, that's pretty bad unless you don't have any other eidolons to use.

the best things to put as subs are eidolons with high stats, or eidolons with good effects on call.. even better if they can do both. it can even depend on the event as well. (like using a Gale Kaiser Dragoon to block some thunder damage against a thunder enemy).


for instance, here's the eidolons for my wind team:



My Main one increases Wind elemental atk by 40% and reduces thunder damage by 10%, so she's placed in that slot.

As for subs:

-Echidna (dark) cause she has lv100 and high stats being a gacha one (her dizzy sometimes lands too).
-Meng Huo (thunder) is there for both her lv100 stats and her atk buff when summoned.
-Huanglong (thunder) is there for stats like echidna. She rarely gets summoned though as she just extends the length of stun mode on bosses.
-Tiamat (Water) is also mostly there for stats, but her summon effect of adding a 3 turn barrier against damage can help soak it up (usually pops instantly cause it's only 750 HP damage it blocks total).
-Gale Kaiser Dragoon (Wind) is there for her effects more than her stats. Her summon effect provides a very good buff combo of boosting wind damage I deal while lowering thunder damage I take for 2 turns.


it's honestly not just the main eidolon, but also sub eidolons that are important, as some can greatly help you (like Meng Huo and Gale Kaiser's buffs greatly increasing burst damage in a full burst combo). At the very least, they give more Atk and HP and that gets amplified when weapon effects and other things come into play.