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    Quote Originally Posted by MajinLuffy View Post
    Well, thanks for telling me to keep playing the event (Slashley, sanahtlig, don't remember if anyone else did xD), I was able to bag all the copies of the weapons and the eidolons and I barely played this week due to being busy with an event on FF Brave Exvius, I actually got 2 more spears from the gacha but considering I won't be able to FLB those I guess they will be fodder. Also was able to pull on the 10 jewel gacha, I wasn't expecting much considering I've been getting crap from the premium tickets all week, and bam!... Got Thor, Aether and Girihmekala in the same pull... seems like the game wants me to have a decent thunder team xD.

    Anyway, regarding the topic of the element building discussion there was from an advice for me (while I was busy with another game xD), yeah... so far even having a somewhat decent starting thunder team, my water team with Rudra still farms the Water Disaster faster o.o
    I do want a Wind team though, this event made sure to remind me how hard is to be on the other side of the elemental advantage stick xD
    grim is cool until you start getting a lot of assault... around 90% or so...

    then elemental attack is the way to go for most damage output, meaning eidolons like thunderbird and phoenix will do more.


    also, you must mean the type-0 and NieR dual event on FFBE. I'm playing that too and pretty much just 3-turn killed Engels.... 7* units on there are broken...


    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--...8A%B9%E6%9E%9C

    Look for Uriel's cap up specifically, has a 100% limit even though the buff can stack beyond 2 times.

    http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--...A6%A7#b64ed5f6

    The entry for exceed also states upper limit is +100%, so basically all burst cap up buffs (except Meta AW) are subject to the same cap.
    never knew this, but where does this all factor in with PF? assuming someone has the soul weapon to increase the effect of PF, how much leeway does someone have after that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    grim is cool until you start getting a lot of assault... around 90% or so...

    then elemental attack is the way to go for most damage output, meaning eidolons like thunderbird and phoenix will do more.
    Got Thunderbird with my initial account rolls... and also... just got to 3000 jewels again thanks to the last login gifts from being a new player and got Marduk and the idol SR that uses dizzy with every skill.... Mikel? Forgot her name. It really wants me to play with thunder xD

    also, you must mean the type-0 and NieR dual event on FFBE. I'm playing that too and pretty much just 3-turn killed Engels.... 7* units on there are broken...
    Well... I was lucky to get a 7* Lucius and a 6* Lilith with their TMRs and STMR (Lucius) so... yeah... he doesn't even last a turn xD
    Though I'm more focused on the type-0 event, need to farm a lot of 6* awakening mats :/
    Feel free to add me 564,638,459. I usually main Lucius but I'm using Seven for the type-0 event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    grim is cool until you start getting a lot of assault... around 90% or so...

    then elemental attack is the way to go for most damage output, meaning eidolons like thunderbird and phoenix will do more.


    also, you must mean the type-0 and NieR dual event on FFBE. I'm playing that too and pretty much just 3-turn killed Engels.... 7* units on there are broken...




    never knew this, but where does this all factor in with PF? assuming someone has the soul weapon to increase the effect of PF, how much leeway does someone have after that?
    PF is burst dmg up, not dmg cap up.

    Stuff like PF, Mike's burst dmg up, Asherah's, Uriel's skill 2 belongs to the frame with a +500% cap. Also, that includes exceed weapons.

    If you're asking about the 2m cap? You won't be hitting those without like... 2 100% eidos and 200%+ assault or something. I've seen whales in DMM hit the 2m cap (say water team) and already trying to optimise their dmg by using Sieg and echo bursts from Ea AW and such. And I don't even know what values their grids are.
    Last edited by Cobblemaniac; 12-02-2018 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Look for Uriel's cap up specifically, has a 100% limit even though the buff can stack beyond 2 times.


    The entry for exceed also states upper limit is +100%, so basically all burst cap up buffs (except Meta AW) are subject to the same cap.
    <urls snipped due to blocking my posting>

    Hmm, I'm not sure that's the logic behind it, as light Athena's passive (stackable +burst performance when damaged) is noted to enable her to go beyond 2 million similar to AW Metatron (it's buried somewhere in the comments). And light Athena's passive is listed under cumulative frame like how AW Uriel's crimson fury is.
    That said, comments on Uriel's page specifically note their disappointment that Uriel can't break through 2 million from testing, so yea, Exceed won't work well with her. At least fire doesn't have all that many sources of Exceed :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    <urls snipped due to blocking my posting>

    Hmm, I'm not sure that's the logic behind it, as light Athena's passive (stackable +burst performance when damaged) is noted to enable her to go beyond 2 million similar to AW Metatron (it's buried somewhere in the comments). And light Athena's passive is listed under cumulative frame like how AW Uriel's crimson fury is.
    That said, comments on Uriel's page specifically note their disappointment that Uriel can't break through 2 million from testing, so yea, Exceed won't work well with her. At least fire doesn't have all that many sources of Exceed :/
    Light Athena being able to exceed (heh) 2m dmg cap is new. I've never heard of that before. Got sauce?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You need another Exceed weapon whenever you start bumping up against your burst's current soft damage cap.

    'Oh darn, I'm getting uncomfortably close to 1 million damage with each individual's burst, I should work on that 1st exceed weapon.'--
    Which, on a side note, basically doesn't happen for F2P at all. At least for me, I can only reach such values against Ult Disasters (who have less Def) and against Union Demons (thanks to stupendous buffs). And in both cases I need a Crit proc to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Light Athena being able to exceed (heh) 2m dmg cap is new. I've never heard of that before. Got sauce?
    The specific comment I saw for light Athena is the one dated 2018 May 8 (Tuesday) 23:59:29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Which, on a side note, basically doesn't happen for F2P at all. At least for me, I can only reach such values against Ult Disasters (who have less Def) and against Union Demons (thanks to stupendous buffs). And in both cases I need a Crit proc to happen.
    well if you think about it, gacha weapons can far eclipse the event ones.... especially if you can FLB them...

    and given the one comment long ago that DMM players are stockpiling drag eyes like no tomorrow, not surprising if there's some paying players that have one or even multiple 100% eidolons at lv100... with maybe even multiple of the same kaiser (cause they're just that good as sub eidolons)...

    if you got a grid full of Large assault with FLB, and then have a 100% eidolon at lv100... you're looking at around 200% assault (189% if using soul weapons, which is likely) and 240% elemental attack before you even get into anything else like weapon skills... just from using a friend 100% that's also MLB...


    and then there was that one screenshot of a player with over 45k-50k HP on their front 5.... i'm sure DMM players have found some serious ways to rip the game a new one (hence why there's a lv100 raid boss now that's rocking 200mil HP).


    hell, wouldn't be shocked if someone did something like grinded out multiple lv125 copies of the phantom sword or something, actually making a rainbow team quite feasible...

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    I feel so stupid, after the first too easy floor of tower I realize the kami lock mechanic, so I try to soul solo the second floor and then I realize there is a mission about 3 teammate surviving.... RIP 1 key...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I feel so stupid, after the first too easy floor of tower I realize the kami lock mechanic, so I try to soul solo the second floor and then I realize there is a mission about 3 teammate surviving.... RIP 1 key...
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