Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Gludateton

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They supposedly wanted to ban for that, is mobile client spared from that (I am pretty someone here said he got banned for that) ?

You get auto-banned if you do actions in DIFFERENT fights, but nothing is done if you use multiple clients in a single fight.

Because fuck logic, I guess.

Originally Posted by Slashley

You get auto-banned if you do actions in DIFFERENT fights, but nothing is done if you use multiple clients in a single fight.

Because fuck logic, I guess.

Really Nutaku?

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

by date of inclusion Belial should be the most common. Buuuut eh. Luck sometimes.

honestly, i find more kirin and the wind one than anything else (but mana is still in 3rd).... so i can vouch for this...

Hey everyone just started playing last night (and by playing I mean rerolling) and I've managed to get Kirin (thunder 100) on one and Rudra (water 100) on another.

In terms of spendings, I don't plan on being a whale but I don't have problem buying miracle tickets (I think they're only available every few months?). I did see on the beginner guide that Thunder requires a good amount of spending since they're reliant on having the core SSR's but water has a lower ceiling since no awakening and just not as much damage?

I would appreciate if someone can give me advice on which account to go with and which KH's to hunt for (both SSR's for miracle and generic SR/R's). Super excited to play!

Originally Posted by Mirai

Hey everyone just started playing last night (and by playing I mean rerolling) and I've managed to get Kirin (thunder 100) on one and Rudra (water 100) on another.

In terms of spendings, I don't plan on being a whale but I don't have problem buying miracle tickets (I think they're only available every few months?). I did see on the beginner guide that Thunder requires a good amount of spending since they're reliant on having the core SSR's but water has a lower ceiling since no awakening and just not as much damage?

I would appreciate if someone can give me advice on which account to go with and which KH's to hunt for (both SSR's for miracle and generic SR/R's). Super excited to play!

If I were you I will go water because vohu manah will come in 3-4 month and she will hard carry your team, good water awaken will come late but because you start now so..., for the first tick I will choose Nike U because heal is good for beginner, Mordred+Ambush+Cthulhu is a cheap and OP combo for beginners but I hear that vohu will outclasse Cthulhu so...., I hate thunder because most of their SR is shit

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If I were you I will go water because vohu manah will come in 3-4 month and she will hard carry your team, good water awaken will come late but because you start now so..., for the first tick I will choose Nike U because heal is good for beginner, Mordred+Ambush+Cthulhu is a cheap and OP combo for beginners but I hear that vohu will outclasse Cthulhu so...., I hate thunder because most of their SR is shit

Thanks for your input Water it is

Originally Posted by Mirai

Hey everyone just started playing last night (and by playing I mean rerolling) and I've managed to get Kirin (thunder 100) on one and Rudra (water 100) on another.

In terms of spendings, I don't plan on being a whale but I don't have problem buying miracle tickets (I think they're only available every few months?). I did see on the beginner guide that Thunder requires a good amount of spending since they're reliant on having the core SSR's but water has a lower ceiling since no awakening and just not as much damage?

I would appreciate if someone can give me advice on which account to go with and which KH's to hunt for (both SSR's for miracle and generic SR/R's). Super excited to play!

See post 171 of the reroll thread for a quick breakdown of elements.

I'm personally not too fond of water because of it's debuff-reliant playstyle that doesn't really change till much later, so I would recommend you run the Kirin account.

Thunder currently has it a bit easier at the lower level rarities: Perun Cyclops and King are all pretty high tier in their own right. Drop in an Astraea too if you so desire to run debuff content for now.

SSRs wise, himes to absolutely look out for: Marduk, Baal U, Brahma, Athena, Raiko. These are what I'd label as the absolute first thing you should miracle ticket for. Notable mentions, aka the less important ones: Mammon (I'm sensing pitchforks), Thor (if you choose paraslave).

As for water, no top tier R himes really stand out to me, except maybe yuri meatshield Kushinada. You do have quite a selection of SRs though, most notably Belphegor, Triton and Venus.

Water SSRs wise, absolute picks: Snow Raphael, Asherah. Maybe Ryu-Oh. Less important picks: Cthulhu*, Shiva*, Poseidon*, Aphro or Nike U.
Those that I marked with a * means they don't stay in that tier forever. All 3 will get an AW (Poseidon is the earliest, in 3.5 months?) that will probably change their placing in terms of priority. Shiva and Cthulhu AWs are really late though, so don't count on these picks unless you're doing long term investment gymnastics.

Miracle tickets from the last batch should be available now, and probably in a few weeks the new batch will come in, so do go into the miracle ticket thread and discuss your options as well.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

See post 171 of the reroll thread for a quick breakdown of elements.

I'm personally not too fond of water because of it's debuff-reliant playstyle that doesn't really change till much later, so I would recommend you run the Kirin account.

Thunder currently has it a bit easier at the lower level rarities: Perun Cyclops and King are all pretty high tier in their own right. Drop in an Astraea too if you so desire to run debuff content for now.

SSRs wise, himes to absolutely look out for: Marduk, Baal U, Brahma, Athena, Raiko. These are what I'd label as the absolute first thing you should miracle ticket for. Notable mentions, aka the less important ones: Mammon (I'm sensing pitchforks), Thor (if you choose paraslave).

As for water, no top tier R himes really stand out to me, except maybe yuri meatshield Kushinada. You do have quite a selection of SRs though, most notably Belphegor, Triton and Venus.

Water SSRs wise, absolute picks: Snow Raphael, Asherah. Maybe Ryu-Oh. Less important picks: Cthulhu*, Shiva*, Poseidon*, Aphro or Nike U.
Those that I marked with a * means they don't stay in that tier forever. All 3 will get an AW (Poseidon is the earliest, in 3.5 months?) that will probably change their placing in terms of priority. Shiva and Cthulhu AWs are really late though, so don't count on these picks unless you're doing long term investment gymnastics.

Miracle tickets from the last batch should be available now, and probably in a few weeks the new batch will come in, so do go into the miracle ticket thread and discuss your options as well.

This is great info too, thank you. I wanted more input because I've looked through the beginner guide but was under the impression that the "best" will constantly be changing so I wanted to know people thoughts based on the current game state.

Is it true that Thunder is more of a glass cannon and Water is a Utility/debuff playstyle?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If I were you I will go water because vohu manah will come in 3-4 month and she will hard carry your team, good water awaken will come late but because you start now so..., for the first tick I will choose Nike U because heal is good for beginner, Mordred+Ambush+Cthulhu is a cheap and OP combo for beginners but I hear that vohu will outclasse Cthulhu so...., I hate thunder because most of their SR is shit

Vohu outclasses everybody else, miracle her if you can next summer (-30% water resist debuff is insane), but if you want second debuffer - use Ruy-Oh instead of Ctulhu if you may choose. Vohu+Ruy-Oh gives all debuffs your water team needs, so you can pick Asherath/damage dealers as other himes and Shingen or other soul with no debuffs for example. Water is good element for FTP players (wind/fire too) because you can make a good team with even 0 SSR (for example Atalanta, Triton,Belphy, Nike, Venus, Gabriel are great SR), and then it can be scaled with SSRs into a very strong team. Thunder's sr are much worse in general, so you need at least couple SSR to make it working- that's whyi don't recomend to play thunder as FTP (i tried to make my Kirin acc working and disliked this idea). IMHO thunder is go-whale-or-go-home element.

I'm personally not too fond of water because of it's debuff-reliant playstyle that doesn't really change till much later, so I would recommend you run the Kirin account.

Thunder currently has it a bit easier at the lower level rarities: Perun Cyclops and King are all pretty high tier in their own right. Drop in an Astraea too if you so desire to run debuff content for now.
//Gryla will be soon, she is thunder sr heal.
SSRs wise, himes to absolutely look out for: Marduk, Baal U, Brahma, Athena, Raiko. These are what I'd label as the absolute first thing you should miracle ticket for. Notable mentions, aka the less important ones: Mammon (I'm sensing pitchforks), Thor (if you choose paraslave).

As for water, no top tier R himes really stand out to me, except maybe yuri meatshield Kushinada. You do have quite a selection of SRs though, most notably Belphegor, Triton and Venus.
//Dagon is nice water R, only Zephyrus and Konohana are better.
Water SSRs wise, absolute picks: Snow Raphael, Asherah. Maybe Ryu-Oh. Less important picks: Cthulhu*, Shiva*, Poseidon*, Aphro or Nike U.
Those that I marked with a * means they don't stay in that tier forever. All 3 will get an AW (Poseidon is the earliest, in 3.5 months?) that will probably change their placing in terms of priority. Shiva and Cthulhu AWs are really late though, so don't count on these picks unless you're doing long term investment gymnastics.
//Posseydon is garbage even after AW, Shiva aw will be top tier damage dealer,not so suicidial as Lakshmi, Ctulhu gets almost nothing after AW - just hearth replaced with other hearth-like effect, stackable with hearths and more +self burst on skill 1 if orb is consumed. No cd reduction, no damage increase (just minor stat boost), so she will be almost the same. I disagree with water Raph as top tier hime - she is good support, but can be easy replaced. My miracle order for water is Vohu (when aviable) then Ruy-oh/Asherath. Asherath is so good because water has not so much buffs, so she is hard to replace.
I disagree, than water's damage is lower then other's.. maybe right now it is so, because no Vohu/Lakshmi/Shiva aw yet, but it will be changed soon.
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P.S. Don't forget to pick both raid hime tickets from advents - Gabriel, Atalanta, Eligos are very solid addition to non-whale team.

Originally Posted by Mirai

Hey everyone just started playing last night (and by playing I mean rerolling) and I've managed to get Kirin (thunder 100) on one and Rudra (water 100) on another.

In terms of spendings, I don't plan on being a whale but I don't have problem buying miracle tickets (I think they're only available every few months?). I did see on the beginner guide that Thunder requires a good amount of spending since they're reliant on having the core SSR's but water has a lower ceiling since no awakening and just not as much damage?

I would appreciate if someone can give me advice on which account to go with and which KH's to hunt for (both SSR's for miracle and generic SR/R's). Super excited to play!

In general:

Water is probably a bit easier to start out on, it's very flexible, has lots of access to debuffs, healing, decent SRs, including free ones (although getting some of the older ones might be a bit more difficult if you're starting out now). It does tend to have a lower damage ceiling, and falls a bit behind at the higher end, but if you're willing to spend for the really strong SSRs, then it'll be fine. Also, worth mentioning is Water UE is about to start, and Rudra's revival is also right around the corner, giving your water grid a huge boost (you probably won't be able to FLB right away, but just read up on what you need and save mats).

Thunder is the opposite, harder to start on since it generally lacks debuffs and healing on all but a few specific unit (thunder teams tend to be very tight), but has a higher ceiling as you get stronger and spend willing to spend. Also, you missed the first Thunder UE with FLB, so will be somewhat behind.

Ideally, I'd say play both if you can (at least minimally to pick up jewels from events) until new years, then try to roll for thunder aphrodite, if you get it on thunder, go with that (as she is a really powerful aid for thunder teams and can't be gotten normally). If not, go with water. Or just pick the better accounts then with a little more to choose from.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In general:

Water is probably a bit easier to start out on, it's very flexible, has lots of access to debuffs, healing, decent SRs, including free ones (although getting some of the older ones might be a bit more difficult if you're starting out now). It does tend to have a lower damage ceiling, and falls a bit behind at the higher end, but if you're willing to spend for the really strong SSRs, then it'll be fine. Also, worth mentioning is Water UE is about to start, and Rudra's revival is also right around the corner, giving your water grid a huge boost (you probably won't be able to FLB right away, but just read up on what you need and save mats).

Thunder is the opposite, harder to start on since it generally lacks debuffs and healing on all but a few specific unit (thunder teams tend to be very tight), but has a higher ceiling as you get stronger and spend willing to spend. Also, you missed the first Thunder UE with FLB, so will be somewhat behind.

Ideally, I'd say play both if you can (at least minimally to pick up jewels from events) until new years, then try to roll for thunder aphrodite, if you get it on thunder, go with that (as she is a really powerful aid for thunder teams and can't be gotten normally). If not, go with water. Or just pick the better accounts then with a little more to choose from.

I think Water will be better for my budget based on what everyone is saying. If you don't mind, can you explain to me what you mean by Water UE and Rudra's revival? Totally newbie here