Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Also just to add, since you said not everyone would be lucky like me or the 2 friends of mine who got them from Premium Tickets or Jewels. Same logic would apply to you. You spent so much and still didn't get what you wanted. You were extremely unlucky and it's possible there's few few out there as unlucky as you. To make a generic term just out of 1 person's bad experience is unfair to others isn't it?

Think of how an F2P who just pulled them through luck would feel. As it is, they have lesser hime count and feel kind of overshadowed unless you grinded really really hard. They would be over the moon if they got a 100% Eido. And you calling them P2W implies they whaled for them? Since you're using it as a generic term?

Isn't that unfair and disrespectful?

Well for starters everyone has his own opinion, if they disagree with you Slashley its for a reason, ive never liked that p2w term on 100% eidos and theres a few reasons that can be explained by breaking down the past and present term p2w.

P2W in the past was referred to any game that had content exclusively for paying users, and that content couldnt be obtained without paying at all, this nowadays is kinda different and the p2w term is now referred to any "unfair" or "considerable advantage" you can get in a game by paying, let it be getting exclusive content which can't be obtained without $ OR stuff that makes your progression way faster, allowing you to skip unnecessary grind and improving your overall experience of a game.

Now understanding this term theres 2 options:

1- The p2w term on 100% eidos is dumb cause you can get them without paying a single $ and throwing tons of $ may as well not give you any at all cause thats gacha games in a nutshell (refer to hymptt which is the only guy on par with bam's stats on the server and has no 100% at all) -> this is based on the "exclusive content that cant be obtained without paying" part of the p2w term, cause you can get 100% eidos without any $.

2- The p2w term on 100% eidos exclusively is dumb cause everything in this game is basically p2w, so may as well call all the gacha eidos as p2w eidos and all the gacha khs as p2w khs -> this is referred to the "unfair and considerable advantage $ can give you to improve your overall experience of the game" part.

So knowing this, choose 1, you either stop calling p2w eidos for the first reason and we call them by their name, or we start calling everything that comes from the gacha p2w , your call.

Originally Posted by Ikki

content exclusively for paying users

but but but shadey how to score 10800 in tower without ascalon grid

I don't even understand the salt about p2w eidos, because even though im f2p and will never be able to have an OP eido, i get to use many 105% eidos from p2w players.

Just pulled water Raphael. With her, Cthulhu, Ryu-Oh, and Poseidon, do I have a SSR team? The glaring problem I'm seeing is no heals. Can that be compensated by a soul, or do I need a healer Hime?

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Just pulled water Raphael. With her, Cthulhu, Ryu-Oh, and Poseidon, do I have a SSR team? The glaring problem I'm seeing is no heals. Can that be compensated by a soul, or do I need a healer Hime?

poseidon pretty much have the same attack debuff frame as ryu-oh, you may replace her for a healer like aphrodite or unleashed nike later on.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

would Arthur even use her own relic weapons over Herc's axe?

For the 100% owners, yes. To balance out the lack of assault vs the overflowing element dmg on the dmg formula. Especially since the game is starting to shift towards solo contents with high resistence and real raids where DPSers must learn to specialize and drop debuffers for dmg focused teams (and leave debuffing to players who chose to specialize in support).

Originally Posted by Slashley

Is that the method used to extract the dbl+ and trpl+ values as well?

Unfortunately no. Judging from the scripts, almost all the unit values are stored on the server side (as it should) and reading the scripts on chrome only shows you the ID of those instances as they are being sent/received. I'm not an expert in this but, as far as I tried, the only practcal things you can find on the client side in them are current/max HP values and resource (images) address.

As for how wiki contributers get those rate numbers, simple: They do thousands of runs and log the occurance with logging tools (some even log them on spreadsheets manually).

Haven't posted in a while :O

So far, my SSR sword and axe are max skilled and I'm working on the Art gun.

Is this too much assault? (is there even such a thing?)

Also on another note, are there any Thunder Hime worth using a Miracle Ticket on? (aren't we getting a ticket soon?) Because of all the work I've put to to Thunder so far, I figure I might as well go all the way, it's my favorite element so far :v

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Haven't posted in a while :O

So far, my SSR sword and axe are max skilled and I'm working on the Art gun.

Is this too much assault? (is there even such a thing?)

Also on another note, are there any Thunder Hime worth using a Miracle Ticket on? (aren't we getting a ticket soon?) Because of all the work I've put to to Thunder so far, I figure I might as well go all the way, it's my favorite element so far :v

No such thing.



Miracle ticket: Mammon.