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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    WHOA THERE, I thought she was character attack?

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    that's how they described her in the wiki anyway:

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    Trust the DMM wiki.

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    well i just ran the fire mat quest with the lowest HP trying to get a managarmr to appear...

    this is with yule goat (40% light atk, 20% HP):

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-yule-test-1.jpg

    and this is with hecatonchires (40% light character atk, 20% HP):

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-yule-test-2.jpg


    it's only off one hit each, but if this keeps up, yule is actually better than I thought and I got a new light eidolon for my lead spot... (she's definitely better than barong...). my grid does make elem atk have more weight than character atk so... there's that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    well i just ran the fire mat quest with the lowest HP trying to get a managarmr to appear...

    this is with yule goat (40% light atk, 20% HP):

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-yule-test-1.jpg

    and this is with hecatonchires (40% light character atk, 20% HP):

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-yule-test-2.jpg


    it's only off one hit each, but if this keeps up, yule is actually better than I thought and I got a new light eidolon for my lead spot... (she's definitely better than barong...). my grid does make elem atk have more weight than character atk so... there's that too.
    You do realise you need to average the values right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    You do realise you need to average the values right?
    which is why I clearly said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    it's only off one hit each, but if this keeps up, yule is actually better than I thought and I got a new light eidolon for my lead spot... (she's definitely better than barong...). my grid does make elem atk have more weight than character atk so... there's that too.

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    So what, people already tested that to be sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    So what, people already tested that to be sure?
    Or you know, just wait till they fix it.

    I don't see why you see the need to jump to conclusions with a single hit.

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-laffeydrink.jpg

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    After doing some tests myself with both a 40% hecaton and a 40% yule each time they appeared as friend eidolons, the damage is averaging out to be the same, which is 22,806 against the Aurora caves boss on ultimate. I burnt out around 250 AP for this (125 for each eidolon since half AP cost) and recorded 3 hits a run each time.

    Did this with no buffs and debuffs on both herc and the boss and it's checking out. Could still run it more but 15 hits a piece is going the same (quite a few hits popped up as 23,254 for both and nothing got higher, so I guess that's my variance cap like this?)

    I can believe it's a typo. Yule Goat has character atk and not elemental. Still wanted to see flat proof before going further.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Or you know, just wait till they fix it.

    I don't see why you see the need to jump to conclusions with a single hit.

    Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A-laffeydrink.jpg
    which is why i tested it further. i do have to point this out in a vid.

    (plus i don't need the "misinformation police" trying to start another fight. people DO make mistakes, as you guys claim i do a lot)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    After doing some tests myself with both a 40% hecaton and a 40% yule each time they appeared as friend eidolons, the damage is averaging out to be the same, which is 22,806 against the Aurora caves boss on ultimate. I burnt out around 250 AP for this (125 for each eidolon since half AP cost) and recorded 3 hits a run each time.

    Did this with no buffs and debuffs on both herc and the boss and it's checking out. Could still run it more but 15 hits a piece is going the same (quite a few hits popped up as 23,254 for both and nothing got higher, so I guess that's my variance cap like this?)

    I can believe it's a typo. Yule Goat has character atk and not elemental. Still wanted to see flat proof before going further.



    which is why i tested it further. i do have to point this out in a vid.

    (plus i don't need the "misinformation police" trying to start another fight. people DO make mistakes, as you guys claim i do a lot)
    It's more of don't report it first if you only have a single sample from my point of view.

    I dabble in the science industry so I would know, giving any sense of conclusion before you have duplicate results is heavily frowned upon.

    That said, kudos for actually testing it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    It's more of don't report it first if you only have a single sample from my point of view.

    I dabble in the science industry so I would know, giving any sense of conclusion before you have duplicate results is heavily frowned upon.
    i let people know that something might be up, but never said anything was confirmed until i got more info. had to go back and replace the pinned comment with the confirmed info when i found out.

    whole point of the vid was for people to be aware that there was something off about that description. char atk vs. elem atk on your eidolons does play a big factor after all

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