Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Crom's trigger is full party big damage, I don't think you can 'tank' that with Kushinada/Oto-hime combo (Oto-hime has cut though).

Really? hang on, let me check. Oh my bad, must be getting confused with another GO. What I meant to say *ahem* was use the trigger to cancel the first overdrive (to save on damage), reduced by kaiser. Then tank the raging overdrive multi-hit with Kushinada/Oto-hime.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You don't understand healer is very important in GO i like to stall for ability and to recover my hp and fill my burst. Don't think that ahead to boss first. The GO miniboss itself is OP too and you face 4th wave. Kushinada is R so its very weak and he can't tank aoe damage. If you think youre right why don't you do go arthur mission only using sr water. St nicholas is the easiest GO imo so if its as simple as you said why don't you prove it. It needs endurance to reach boss and i want to see how without heal can reach boss unscathed and win the mission. Im not offended if its true i want to see it. So people have correct answer.

It's weird to me that you keep saying Arthur is the weak point, when IMO, Arthur is one of the better souls out there. Not on par with damage/toughness as Herc, and not as good supportive as Shingen, but a nice combo of both when your team isn't ready for the super fast meta. Also, I've found, as many are saying, that the pots are plenty good enough. I usually have several to spare by the end.

To put it in perspective, my water grid and water team is pretty much a disaster even for a f2p player back during crom. My grid back then was full event weapons, with at least 3 SR (maybe even 4), before Water UE/Rahab reprint "saved" it (granted all of them were max skill level since I'm an old player). My team was soul with ambush, belphegor, atalanta, kushinada, oto-hime, using jack frost and a friend rudra. Zero healing whatsoever unless you consider Joan's regen on one of the mission (which is no better than sr nike). The only remotely difficult thing I have to get was a water kaiser (I thought I'd try to prepare a little bit for fire tower, even if it was pretty hopeless) and +99 eidolons, both takes a few months to get. Using kushinada/oto-hime combo and burst to tank/burst away the dangerous multi hit enemies (really look at their skills for a second, and you'll understand why, this combo is basically gaia level useful - granted, takes 2 himes). I got the full 20 points and all oris from crom. Really, if I can do it, anyone with a decent grid should be able to.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

MLB Behemoth is unlikely, but 2-star Sleipnir and two 0 LB hime weapons ain't that hard to come by.

I am quite lost about what's this whole discussion is about though. First it was about healers being very important for f2p running GO and now it's about healer being important in water running all GO except thunder... is it still about f2p ?

Prolly last time. Its about maining water, to clear GO without healer with f2p setup to prove its endurance. Example i have asked to clear current go only using sr water for arthur or Siegfried mission. Siegfried is better to prove its endurance compared to arthur. To main mean it can use water in anything maybe except disadvantage. We know GO also crucial cuz give precious orihalcon that can be trade to SSR fodder, SSR raid or for flb.

I repeat again i don't want water against fire i want water against neutral that's it. Sorry have to repeat again this the last one im out

Originally Posted by Ikki

Wait, now having 2 SSR khs qualifies you as a whale? thats some big quality meme, either that or your definition of F2P is very special, let's just say that Dude is a whale too since he owns a Hraes shall we.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

MLB Behemoth is unlikely, but 2-star Sleipnir and two 0 LB hime weapons ain't that hard to come by.--

F2P means not being able to rely on something like having 0-star Assault SSR weapons, or 60% Assault main Eidolons.

But as I said, the difference is not big. Compared to running two Wind Disaster... uh, Bows, was it? And Quetzal from Eidolon Orbs, it's not a significant advantage. Still, I wouldn't call that F2P.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I repeat again i don't want water against fire i want water against neutral that's it. Sorry have to repeat again this the last one im out

I'm sorry, but why in the world are you trying to main water without any water ssr or 100% eidolon, are you a masochist?

Originally Posted by Ikki

Just tigerninja doing what he always does, or at least some1 doing a very good job copying him.

So I don't hang around any kh community outside of here, and I stay in a union that struggles to get within the top 100. But if TigerNinja's like this, I'm kinda glad that I declined joining his union a while back.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Its about maining water, to clear GO without healer with f2p setup to prove its endurance. Example i have asked to clear current go only using sr water for arthur or Siegfried mission.

Tbh I never understood the idea of f2p maining one element (unless you have ridiculous luck in pulling one element). Why would you shoot yourself in the foot ? And damn, proving endurance of team without healers... I mean you can clear GO with offensive water team without healers, but going on defense without healers... are there any more requirements or can we start composing such team already ?

Originally Posted by Slashley

F2P means not being able to rely on something like having 0-star Assault SSR weapons, or 60% Assault main Eidolons.

I see, so f2p grids need to be event only, point taken. What about Kamihime ?

Should also ask... do we get to use rahab's FLB weapons too? 'cuz with those, my water team is 12K+ HP easily so no healing is kind of a joke.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm sorry, but why in the world are you trying to main water without any water ssr or 100% eidolon, are you a masochist?

You can use shiva and/ or ea if you want. Its about endurance.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Tbh I never understood the idea of f2p maining one element (unless you have ridiculous luck in pulling one element). --

The latter part exactly. Sometimes, RNG deals you a hand that you just makes you "have" to main it. Like, if you pull Svarog/Uriel with Belial/Amaterasu. What's even the point of building on other teams at that point?

I mean, eventually, yes. Once you've done everything you can for your main element, go ahead and put others into shape. But chances are for pure F2P, those teams will never match your "main" element. It will just be better to off-element with your main, really.
... until that one day when you pull something like Lugh and Tish and Metatron all in one go. Then you just swap your main.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

-- What about Kamihime ?

For pure F2P, that's just crapshoot, now isn't it? I mean, you're going to get what you happen to get. There's no clear rule there.

For this particular case, using any R Hime - even "premium" ones (outside of Gem gacha) - is fine by my books. I mean, Rs are wayyy weaker than SRs, and we can kinda expect pure F2P to have SOME kind of full SR teams at this point, right? Depending on how they've been playing...?


I don't know why I'm even trying to define some kind of rules for F2P, considering how far I am from one at this point.