Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Wanderer

Your team is excellent debuff-wise, but lacks of damage output, which is quite common for Water.

Hercules is great, but as long as your KHs already have def down fully covered, it's better to use Shingen. I guess it's gonna take a while for you to unlock her, so in short term, you can run Andromeda or Arthur, depending on whether there's risk of getting wiped.

If mtix still available, you can pick Aphrodite or Asherah.

Da heck you are talking about?
"Hercules is great, but as long as your KHs already have def down fully covered, it's better to use Shingen." That's totally BS.

Who said you should only get Herc-relic if you don't reach def cap... ?

First of all Shingen will be too fast for his Team anyway, why should he get Shingen?
Furthermore with that team he can just run Hercules+PF.
In addition Hercules has a strong Nuke, your water team lacks dmg anyway, and is a strong tank.
Hercules is also enough to carry your team till AQ4 with relic.

And please don't MTix Aphrodite... That would be a waste. Why?
Snow Raphi and Poseidon are enough to keep you alive. Get Herc relic for more damage and level your water Grid.

MTix Asherah becaue Hercules is also a bit too fast for your water team.
If you don't want to MTix then wait till you get Asherah, Shiva or Neptune to replace Poseidon until she gets her AW.

I have the exactly same water team but Poseidon is in my sub and Asherah in main team.

If you lack the damage to brute force your way, then use Andromeda till your grid is better.
I would say you will need at least 38k attack, Herc relic SL20 and 9k HP+ to do everything without healer, disaster rags not inculuded.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And please don't MTix Aphrodite... That would be a waste. Why?
Snow Raphi and Poseidon are enough to keep you alive. Get Herc relic for more damage and level your water Grid.

Well, Poseidon for fire content of course. Off-ele she is currently not that good, until her AW.
But Ryu-Oh provides BP and Cthulhu orb eating. Get for both of them affliction acc.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Da heck you are talking about?
"Hercules is great, but as long as your KHs already have def down fully covered, it's better to use Shingen." That's totally BS.

Who said you should only get Herc-relic if you don't reach def cap... ?

Well, I know you are talking self-contradictory BS. I mean, since "Hercules is great" is also seen by you as BS lul

First of all, Herc is also too fast for this team, and fast on his own, while Shingen at least speeds the whole team up.

Furthermore, with “Raphi and Poseidon are enough to keep you alive”, why you need a tank? How can Herc actually tank without taunting abilities?

In addition, Herc + PF? Like Shingen doesn't have an EX slot lol.

And your team is hardly the same as his, as Asherah makes big difference, otherwise why suggesting MTix her? Guess this also explains why you don’t feel Herc being too fast, cuz Asherah helps your KHs keep up.

Aphrodite has 3 nice abilities, but the most valuable one is actually the combo rate up. Her healing is important for beginners (hence my suggestion of MTix her now and Asherah with the next one), and in late game she still serves well as front row to follow up the soul with those extra self-healing and DA.

TBH, I do understand why you think like that. After all, it’s the age of Herc as Slashley said. But this game changes fast and we can learn things from DMM version. It started with the age of Mordred and Sol, then age of Herc and nukes, but soon, the age of burst comes and stays till now.

I said Herc is great as she continues to be relevant in that age, when veterans would drop slow debuffers and use soul for def down while maintaining burst speed (even seeing Arthur w/ Herc’s axe occasionally). But if you got a fast debuffer, or maybe too many debuffers to drop like what we have here, Shingen will be the choice. So, you can just wait and see that age to come for yourself, or I’d suggest you too, instead of packing 80% def down, to try Shingen when her weapon is out, and better to replace Raphi with Saraswati, Ea, or Aphro if you have them.

Originally Posted by Wanderer

In addition, Herc + PF? Like Shingen doesn't have an EX slot lol.

While true, the question is largely "What would he do with his Shingen EX slot?" Because you're not giving a suggestion for that.

Herc is just stronger unless you absolutely require that EX skill. Which you sometimes do, but his team basically covers everything already. Shingen is also stronger in ridiculously fast burst teams, like Wind chaingun builds. At least, I think she is... it's not like I've gotten to test.

Originally Posted by Wanderer

Well, I know you are talking self-contradictory BS. I mean, since "Hercules is great" is also seen by you as BS lul

First of all, Herc is also too fast for this team, and fast on his own, while Shingen at least speeds the whole team up.

Furthermore, with “Raphi and Poseidon are enough to keep you alive”, why you need a tank? How can Herc actually tank without taunting abilities?

In addition, Herc + PF? Like Shingen doesn't have an EX slot lol.

And your team is hardly the same as his, as Asherah makes big difference, otherwise why suggesting MTix her? Guess this also explains why you don’t feel Herc being too fast, cuz Asherah helps your KHs keep up.

Aphrodite has 3 nice abilities, but the most valuable one is actually the combo rate up. Her healing is important for beginners (hence my suggestion of MTix her now and Asherah with the next one), and in late game she still serves well as front row to follow up the soul with those extra self-healing and DA.

TBH, I do understand why you think like that. After all, it’s the age of Herc as Slashley said. But this game changes fast and we can learn things from DMM version. It started with the age of Mordred and Sol, then age of Herc and nukes, but soon, the age of burst comes and stays till now.

I said Herc is great as she continues to be relevant in that age, when veterans would drop slow debuffers and use soul for def down while maintaining burst speed (even seeing Arthur w/ Herc’s axe occasionally). But if you got a fast debuffer, or maybe too many debuffers to drop like what we have here, Shingen will be the choice. So, you can just wait and see that age to come for yourself, or I’d suggest you too, instead of packing 80% def down, to try Shingen when her weapon is out, and better to replace Raphi with Saraswati, Ea, or Aphro if you have them.

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Water meta next year:
Asherah, Ryu-Oh, Vohu-Manah... last spot whatever you want. Maybe Shiva AW

Age of burst...
Herc relic = 30BG = you can use PF
And the only team that it's a must-have to use Shingen is wind. Maybe dark too, if you have those high DA/TA KH
Water is too slow currently.

DA/TA up...ACC Set Bonus and you have a higher DA/TA rate for each KH.

If you cover 50% def down, then you should go with Herc+PF obviously unless we talk about Burst Wind Meta.
And some dark build, where Shingen has better synergy

And just noooo... Don't waste a MT for Aphrodite.

Shingen is a nice Soul too but for that water team... Herc is the better option in the long run, especially with Tower.

For my water team, should I get Hercules' axe or bow?

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hey guys question ... what is the chance of pulling 3 ssr in 1 draw ...

sry not to brag .... but omg rng ....

Originally Posted by AznSamsung

hey guys question ... what is the chance of pulling 3 ssr in 1 draw ...

sry not to brag .... but omg rng ....

damn no offense but fuck off with your luck T_T

Originally Posted by AznSamsung

hey guys question ... what is the chance of pulling 3 ssr in 1 draw ...

sry not to brag .... but omg rng ....

I'm kinda not allowed to say this, even as a mod...

But man, fuck right off, you and your god fucking damned luck.

Is it worth keeping the lilims, or should I just sell them for Kaiser food?

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