Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

No way?
(2+28)*7 = 210 Rs for the SSR? Super rough maths, can't be arsed.
(1+19)*10 = 200 Rs for the SR?
... shit, I never even realized. Yeah, they are about the same cost to upgrade (to 13%). Then your analysis is correct.

Just keep in mind that for you, at the moment base Atk can be much more valuable than what it is for me.

Oops. I added an extra level for SR so 190 for SR and 210 for SSR to get to 13%. However, when SR grails starts coming into play which SRs can never take full advantage of I guess its roughly the same.

Err scratch that. Also added extra level for SSR so it's actually cheaper 182 vs 190, for SSR to get to 13%.

I did the stupid but intuitive long math so numbers should check out:
SSR - (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13) × 2 = 182
SR - (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+
17+18+19) = 190

Events now throw double SSR wpns at you every week usually. Not to mention there are soul weapons and such. So SRs aren't as essential for beginners to have as fillers as they once were. It's still a starting point for building grids, but newcomers nowadays get access to more SSRs more quickly than we once did in the past.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

Events now throw double SSR wpns at you every week usually. Not to mention there are soul weapons and such. So SRs aren't as essential for beginners to have as fillers as they once were. It's still a starting point for building grids, but newcomers nowadays get access to more SSRs more quickly than we once did in the past.

While true for Advents and UEs, Raids are still one weapon. Also before, weapons were either Assault(++) or Defender(++), and you'd need like one of the latter too. These days, they've increased the best weapons (to like Assault(+)/Defender()) but you can get absolute garbage weapons like Typhon's Elaborate(+)/Stinger weapon. Which is just... vat.

In other words, kinda, but on the on the other hand, kinda not. I think the biggest difference is that if you can get yourself into a decent Union, then you get two great weapons for yourself. Too bad DMM did away with that too.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Dark is getting nothing, Light is getting a complete revamp of Hime to use over the next year. So Dark mains can just spend Jewels away, whileas Light mains should save up for the broken as fuck upcoming Light Hime.

Notice that your chances of actually landing a new Hime with Jewels is pathetic. But if you save up a lot, it's slightly less pathetic.Reminder of the damage calc. The quick weapon checker will tell you if it's a good idea or not.

For veterans like me, a level 50 Assault(++) SSR is better than a level 85 Assault(+) SR. I don't know what weapons those are since I'm too lazy to check, but if they're dual-skills, absolutely. If they're single Assault skills, kinda. If it's not an upgrade for you yet, it will be. But, keep in mind that your resources are still very limited and leveling up SSRs is twice as expensive as SRs.

Well... dark does get one very important hime in Agaliarept though, but other than that... yeah no new entries worth practically saving for. Quite frankly first thing dark teams absolutely gonna need: Pluto. And it's not like you can exactly ignore dark if you're a light main.

On a team with Uriel AW, should I get grab Hercules' axe and run her or get Shingen's bow and run her instead?

Originally Posted by Rea

On a team with Uriel AW, should I get grab Hercules' axe and run her or get Shingen's bow and run her instead?

Herc if you still can’t reach debuff cap, Shingen if you can

Originally Posted by Rea

On a team with Uriel AW, should I get grab Hercules' axe and run her or get Shingen's bow and run her instead?

Shingen spear. Bow doesn't guarantee you your FB until MEX comes in, and even then with spear you can insta FB while with bow you still need to wait 1t, plus spear is atk.

On whether Herc or Shingen... depends on what the rest of your team is. If Ares Svarog Uriel are all there, Shingen probably. Otherwise, Herc. Also, Herc if you find your team a bit too squishy for your own liking.

Edit response to unregistered:

Debuff cap... on fire. Really. While all the hardest wind content is debuff resistant. Really now.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

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Debuff cap... on fire. Really. While all the hardest wind content is debuff resistant. Really now.

Ult Wind Disaster? Which you literally just AAB as it is a raid? And if you have Uriel, you probably are going to just solo it anyway. So really.

With the possible exception of Uriel, debuffs are still entirely stupid good for Fire teams.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Edit response to unregistered:

Debuff cap... on fire. Really. While all the hardest wind content is debuff resistant. Really now.

Like Wind Disaster, Wind UE, Wind Disaster, Wind UE, Wind Disaster and Wind UE.
While I in overall agree with your point, dissing completely DEF down cap because of Wind Disastre, Wind UE... (enough of this) may or may not be bad, if one have problem with clearing wind GO and wind AQ5 (those are not the hardest content now I suppose). Well, if one can clear Siegfried mission it won't matter anyway.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Ult Wind Disaster? Which you literally just AAB as it is a raid? And if you have Uriel, you probably are going to just solo it anyway. So really.

With the possible exception of Uriel, debuffs are still entirely stupid good for Fire teams.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Like Wind Disaster, Wind UE, Wind Disaster, Wind UE, Wind Disaster and Wind UE.
While I in overall agree with your point, dissing completely DEF down cap because of Wind Disastre, Wind UE... (enough of this) may or may not be bad, if one have problem with clearing wind GO and wind AQ5 (those are not the hardest content now I suppose). Well, if one can clear Siegfried mission it won't matter anyway.

Lemme rephrase. 25% def break is not the first thing you'd consider when running Herc for a fire team.

That comment was more of a frustration remark in unregistered comparing Herc and Shingen solely by debuff cap when that's not exactly the main point of either in a fire team. I go back to if it helps use it, but it shouldn't be your cornerstone.