Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

ahh one of my best alts yet...

Originally Posted by Slashley

... do I REALLY need to say that Ults don't count? That's 4 Def when compared to 5, so you have what, 20% extra damage (I can't be arsed to even think the exact number, but it's around an always on Crit). And do I REALLY need to also specify no numbers with Union buffs (+100% Assault and +150% Burst) before somebody suggests those as well? ... although I guess that'd be valid since Union content is serious business...

All the numbers I listed were against 10 Def. And no Union buffs.

Null weapons are here...

And that's a big part of the answer.

Oh, and in context, iirc they've got themselves 100%s or a couple of gacha weps too, so that's a helping factor.

Originally Posted by Kitty

ahh one of my best alts yet...

Double Cybele!

nano.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Null weapons are here...

That could help. Considering how Rags have been out for two days and the droprate, and how well free grids are ready for them at this point already, not sure how much this actually contributes though.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Oh, and in context, iirc they've got themselves 100%s or a couple of gacha weps too, so that's a helping factor.

Oh yeah, you can slap +1 Exceed needed if you own a P2W Eidolon. That's true.

i just notice about the free inventory upgrade o,o is it permanent???

1) I see there is a 20 enhancement cap. Does each level count as 1 enhancement? What is the max number of levels? Does each level cost only 1 point or do they get progressively more expensive? Do the 15 point skills affect the cap?

2) I've heard people say double and triple attack are the best enhancements for Herc. Not sure why since she already bursts quickly. Wouldn't atk up be better? Also, are either of her new skills worth getting?

3) If double attack is so great, why don't rush weapons get more love?

2) I've heard people say double and triple attack are the best enhancements for Herc. Not sure why since she already bursts quickly. Wouldn't atk up be better? Also, are either of her new skills worth getting?
Wouldn't a more consistent fast bursting herc better?

3) If double attack is so great, why don't rush weapons get more love?
Rush weapon = Generally SR weapons assault% with 5% extra double attack rate (according to DMM wiki) with double the amount of SL fods needed to level. You tell me if that is worth investing in.

Woah, be careful to point out that 5% for Rush comes from either Rush (M) or Rush (L) (I'm not sure which; the wiki will list 3% for M at lv 20, but that's not definitive). There's ambiguity as more testing is still needed. Although I think Gludateon's testing here so far would at least indicate that 5% is probably way above what Rush (S) offers.

Why don't rush weapons get more love then? Because a lot of the rush weapons that also carry assault or pride tend to be Rush (S). Rush (S) is highly likely to be not all that impactful.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Your definition of "like nothing" is very strange. We're literally talking Crit procs, which ranges from 10-45% chances.

So outside of pure luck based crits, how does one hit 1m burst like nothing again? I'll accept Aether, but that's still one element. Apparently Fire is a no-go, what about the rest?

My water team on DMM with terrible grid (5 sr weapons, only 1 flb, Tiamat+ friend's Rudra) and no shingen can easy burst for 1 mil damage with Lakshmi vs fire (just did it in tower). Rest - 600+k. Team is Herc (Artur's buff because i don't have PF and don't need any debuff), Vohu, Lakshmi, Ruy-Oh, Asherath... how i wish to have all those on Nutaku. If Herc=>Shingen, 1 mil+ will become even easier.

1) I see there is a 20 enhancement cap. Does each level count as 1 enhancement? What is the max number of levels? Does each level cost only 1 point or do they get progressively more expensive? Do the 15 point skills affect the cap?

2) I've heard people say double and triple attack are the best enhancements for Herc. Not sure why since she already bursts quickly. Wouldn't atk up be better? Also, are either of her new skills worth getting?

3) If double attack is so great, why don't rush weapons get more love?

1)Yes, 1 lvl is 1 point. 3 lvls max. No, skill has no affection to cap.
2)ALWAYS, I said ALWAYS do tata, then data, then L attack/burst, then rest (maybe Andromeda's heal before it). Herc has a very good profit from data/tata passives becaus of her buffs - she almost always multihits. Never buy a new skill with only 1 exception: Shingen, her skill is op - she can make your team do full burst with PF on turn 1. For other souls old ex skills are more profitable.

3) S rush is 1% data, M rush is 3% L rush is 5% on SL 20. Assault/pride seems to be more profitable. I use rush weapons only if they have Assault/pride as second skill.

So where should we question about SR Miracle ticket?

I want to switch from Herc to Shingen after the next UE, With Shingen and her EX skill I lose 25% def down from Herc's axe and can't use EX slot for ss or ambush, so can a team that can't reach 50% def debuff with kami only run Shingen?
Also would 0 star Hraes worth using as sub to cover the lack of debuff for Shingen?