Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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Now, there is a HUGE problem that just surfaced... I had itchy fingers seeing a balance of 600 starcoins remaining, went to gacha, and saw a discount pull for 120. Well, Mars popped.
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To be honest, I can't believe the "settled" team comps just went out the window because of a single 120 pull.

And this is exactly why there's no point in discussing Miracle Tickets in advance

For veterans, Mars replaces Heph since you'll use Herc for the remainder of Def Debuff, but for you, for any non-debuff immune content (you won't be fighting much of that at your power levels), you'll run Ama-Mars-Heph-carry. At the moment your carry is Ares I guess.

The other option is to drop Heph and run Ambush, this lets you run Dakki against Wind for example. Or run a second carry, which you don't have yet.

Ultimately, it comes down to what content you're doing.

Originally Posted by Slashley

And this is exactly why there's no point in discussing Miracle Tickets in advance

I finally see how true this statement holds with experience first hand now XD

Originally Posted by Slashley

Ultimately, it comes down to what content you're doing.

This is just my theory-crafting on team comps with what I have, for specific contents aside from the two you mentioned.


Assuming we are dropping Heph for a conditional KH, making Amaterasu+Ares+Mars the common KHs for each team,

Prometheus + Andromeda(fully aware of it being a noob trap) with ambush, would be for fighting against multiple trash mobs or bosses with huge nukes where stalling overdrive and healing is required for me to survive and finish fights. A possible content example would be Guild Orders.

Yamaraja + Mordred with Maiden's Prayer for Affliction RST + Affliction block + Affliction cleanse, which I would probably only ever use for a fight where enemy applies massive amounts of afflictions, example being dark enemies with DoTs and CCs.

Beelzebub LB3 + Mordred with Ambush, used only during Burst Time, capping Beelzebub at LB3 so the defensive debuff expires one wave before overdrive kicks in, but grants me the 50% Fire ATK Up for hard hitting burst and skill nukes. Will probably NEVER use this combo outside burst time.


Would love to get your thoughts on if the three conditional theory-crafting is made with the correct mindset.

Yearly long Miracle Tickets is basically the best shit DMM has done to this game so far.

Hello, just got aries and svarog. Do I need to change my flb sr disaster lances to their weapons?
Also, I have uriel, who should I awaken first? Thank you very much

Originally Posted by Schrophorclesss

Hello, just got aries and svarog. Do I need to change my flb sr disaster lances to their weapons?
Also, I have uriel, who should I awaken first? Thank you very much

Svarog first!
and yes, replace the SR disaster weps for their weps. Even at 0LB, the SSR ones have similar stats to the SR ones and 16% assault rather than 13% at SL20. keep them locked though for future, since they won't stay on your grid unless they are MLBed I suppose.
Good for now, tho

Svarog>Uriel>Ares

Thank you very much. I'll keep that in mind.

How are you supposed to use a thunder grid efficiently?
I spent some time improving my thunder team for the upcoming water tower, but it just feels meh.

My hime are Tyr (Awakened), Jupiter, Mammon, Raiko Backline: Thor and that SR healer hime.
The Soul and not having a healer hime (not even with a miracle ticket) is a huge problem
I cant decide on a soul weapon because I feel like they just die if I dont use Andromeda.
. I'm at around 51k attack and they sit at like 11k hp ingame, and if I use another soul like Herc or Shingen, I make it to A4 thunder Q at like 50% hp on my hime and then barely scrape by defeating the boss. Same thing with Guild order, maybe they can barely manage Water but can't ever kill the other elements. And rag raids are just big bags of hp with meh damage, but u gotta sustain it somehow.
I know Jupiter is kinda meh, but honestly Thor feels like trash and I'm glad I didn't awaken her. But what other hime could even make a difference if your just gonna be dying to the boss after your done with the trash mobs?
For comparison I Can auto Thunder AQ 4 on my water grid (which is indeed a good chunk better), but not AQ 5.

Or is thunder just a shit element if you didn't manage to pull Thunder Aphro?

Originally Posted by Keyen

I don't get it. Everyone talks about Rudra (and the other) as "P2W", with people with optimized SSR leaving the game because they weren't able to roll one and lost to damage to a team with trash characters but with a 100% eidolon, and you tell me "you never know, you may roll something which is better".

What kind of RNG are we talking here? 3 optimized SSR? More? Another 100% eidolon on top of that?

When i started on DMM, I failed to reroll into ptw eydo and picked Vohu + Lakshmi account. I guess that they+ Venus/Belphy from sr miracle + nike sr + Tiamat were not weaker, but much stronger starter team then Rudra+ r/sr team. I was suffering from no water events with disaster weapons, but Rudra acc should be in the same situation. In long term PTW eydo should be better as single item than almost any hime, but it doesn't mean that you can't play with no Hrae/Rudra/etc. You can have enough 100% eydo for GO/rognarok advents etc even withount friends. Why everybody (including me) advices to reroll into 100% eydo? because a) you can't miracle them if you ready to spend $50 like any non-limited hime, and b) you will have a lot of friends with 100% eydo. But acc with 2+ same element core hime shouldn' be weaker if you are not lucky with your rerolls.

Team with trash characters + 100% eydo can't deal more damage than good SSR team + 40%/5%data or 45% eydo. If we talk about water, Tiamat=>Rudra is about 25% damage boost. It's a lot, but any r/sr =>Lakshmi/Shiva aw - it's much more damage boost. (Lakshmi release in this April, so it's not so long wait).

How are you supposed to use a thunder grid efficiently?
I spent some time improving my thunder team for the upcoming water tower, but it just feels meh.

My hime are Tyr (Awakened), Jupiter, Mammon, Raiko Backline: Thor and that SR healer hime.
The Soul and not having a healer hime (not even with a miracle ticket) is a huge problem
I cant decide on a soul weapon because I feel like they just die if I dont use Andromeda.
. I'm at around 51k attack and they sit at like 11k hp ingame, and if I use another soul like Herc or Shingen, I make it to A4 thunder Q at like 50% hp on my hime and then barely scrape by defeating the boss. Same thing with Guild order, maybe they can barely manage Water but can't ever kill the other elements. And rag raids are just big bags of hp with meh damage, but u gotta sustain it somehow.
I know Jupiter is kinda meh, but honestly Thor feels like trash and I'm glad I didn't awaken her. But what other hime could even make a difference if your just gonna be dying to the boss after your done with the trash mobs?
For comparison I Can auto Thunder AQ 4 on my water grid (which is indeed a good chunk better), but not AQ 5.

Or is thunder just a shit element if you didn't manage to pull Thunder Aphro?

Thunder has Gryla as free healer hime. You may use her or off-element heal if needed (Sol aw/Seth etc)

Originally Posted by Alaryn

How are you supposed to use a thunder grid efficiently?
I spent some time improving my thunder team for the upcoming water tower, but it just feels meh.

My hime are Tyr (Awakened), Jupiter, Mammon, Raiko Backline: Thor and that SR healer hime.
The Soul and not having a healer hime (not even with a miracle ticket) is a huge problem
I cant decide on a soul weapon because I feel like they just die if I dont use Andromeda.
. I'm at around 51k attack and they sit at like 11k hp ingame, and if I use another soul like Herc or Shingen, I make it to A4 thunder Q at like 50% hp on my hime and then barely scrape by defeating the boss. Same thing with Guild order, maybe they can barely manage Water but can't ever kill the other elements. And rag raids are just big bags of hp with meh damage, but u gotta sustain it somehow.
I know Jupiter is kinda meh, but honestly Thor feels like trash and I'm glad I didn't awaken her. But what other hime could even make a difference if your just gonna be dying to the boss after your done with the trash mobs?
For comparison I Can auto Thunder AQ 4 on my water grid (which is indeed a good chunk better), but not AQ 5.

Or is thunder just a shit element if you didn't manage to pull Thunder Aphro?

I use Sol, Thunderbird and a single Light Ascension weapon in my grid (Union Event Staff) to help her hit 3.4k heal.

She may not do damage in the grid, but eliminating debuffs, healing, -20% ATK C down, and removing an enemy buff is still plenty.

Don't bother with a thunder healer; there aren't any great ones out there.

Dejnov.

Hum, few questions on the incoming stuff:
-Obviously, I won't be able to clear the Tower completely. I guess I will be fine up until lvl 5 or 6. Can I use multiple tickets on the earlier levels so I can clear the "3 hime surviving" and "all hime of the right element" on different runs?
-Concerning the incoming Fire SSRs (and SR), we have Amon (Black maid) in april (with Nergal (Immolation)), while we have Mammon (Banquet Empress) + Atalanta (Passion) in June. I read that Amon isn't so good since bi-element are basically shit, and Nergal is a tank (do I need one?). Meanwhile, Mammon looks like a good burst generator and Atalanta seems to have good skill damage. Am I wrong to assume that I should wait for June to spend the magic jewels? Maybe wait even more for Vajaun / Vahagn?