Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

i see posts written that HP weapon = trash... is SSR weapon consider trash as well? Dark element + atk skill is hard to come by.... only Apo lance is atk skill for now, medu is hp and future Dullahan is HP as well....

Originally Posted by dreadpin

i see posts written that HP weapon = trash... is SSR weapon consider trash as well? Dark element + atk skill is hard to come by.... only Apo lance is atk skill for now, medu is hp and future Dullahan is HP as well....

The farmable SR dark gun from dark prison disaster raid is atk-up

Originally Posted by Naruhodo

The farmable SR dark gun from dark prison disaster raid is atk-up

but the dmg gap is too huge between SR/SSR isn't it(note: both are max LB & level)...so i think even the skill atk-up won't be able to make up for that?

At high enough base attack, you'd probably still want an SR with assault over the SSR with defender in the theoretical lategame. For an SR, lv 20 assault adds +13% to the character side of the damage formula. The event SSR with defender may have a 500-700 point lead over the prison raid gun at max, but it won't contribute to multiplying the attack given by everything else you're using.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

At high enough base attack, you'd probably still want an SR with assault over the SSR with defender in the theoretical lategame. For an SR, lv 20 assault adds +13% to the character side of the damage formula. The event SSR with defender may have a 500-700 point lead over the prison raid gun at max, but it won't contribute to multiplying the attack given by everything else you're using.

You're ignoring the fact that extra HP isn't worthless. It allows you to heal more efficiently and use a more offensive team composition. That said, you'll generally get more mileage out of an HP/character ATK eidolon.

If you have a large amount of HP from weapon skills, sure it'll increase your chances of survival, but if you're rarely or never going below a certain amount, then that is wasted potential that could have been extra damage.

Like say if my units had 7~8k HP cause I had several HP skill weapons but none pretty much ever go below 2k HP. That there is a loss of damage.

The only time I would recommend HP skill weapons is if you're still fresh to the game and can't reach the HP threshold needed to survive an event because of lack of time to farm for break limits/low level kamihimes or if you have no other weapon for your soul/to fill other slots.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

If you have a large amount of HP from weapon skills, sure it'll increase your chances of survival, but if you're rarely or never going below a certain amount, then that is wasted potential that could have been extra damage.

Losing characters is a loss of damage too. In Ragnarok events where a character can take 5-6k in a single attack, that extra HP is the difference between getting your Full Burst off and not.

But again, eidolons are nice because you can switch them in and out at will. Weapons require significant investment.

If the question is which HP or ATK gear is better, I'd use anything that's farmable or from event rewards. Since the game is still fresh there's not many SR and SSR weapon to choose especially for a mono element team for advent and raids.

I believe the question is that if you had a full grid of same-element LB3 assault weapons, which would you invest your resources in: a SR Assault or a SSR defender weapon. I think you could make an argument for either. I haven't ran the calculations on what combination of eidolons and assault/defender choice would maximize damage for a given threshold of HP bonus, though someone could easily do so with the tools I've made available and the various known max weapon stats. There's no reason for me to run that analysis until I confront that decision myself.

Does anybody know what's going on with the Upgrade SP Quests? They haven't shown up for the past couple of weeks (at least I haven't seen them during the times that they are supposed to be up). Does somebody have the ability to ask them about it?

Also since they introduced Ch19 and you get to beat Melusine, I'm unable to get her Eidolon. I notice that it's supposed to be tradable in the shop, however every time I go to trade or even look at it the game restarts.

If they knew about it ahead of time, perhaps they should have waited until they had the bugs fixed before releasing ch19, because I believe we're supposed to be getting her after beating her.

Is anyone else having these issues?