Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Got 2 questions

I've almost never used my Light team(same for my wind) due to the lack of good assault weapons(barely any LB2 SRs) and SSRs. I'm wondering if this will be viable:
1) Grab Andromeda's spear(extra hp regen) since I somehow have enough regalia for LB0 light soul weapon
2) Andromeda with Chaos Magic/Maiden's Prayer + Demeter + Belobog + SSRArtemis + Either Raphael or Nike(Unleashed) for even more healing
3) Host Dark Ults, attack first turn, AABing starting second turn and pray I get sub-mvp half the time

Reason I'm interested in trying this is that most of my teams when hosting, can get MVP 30% of the time, and sub-MVP 50% of the time assuming 20% of the time someone strong comes in and carries me before I wipe/deal enough damage. But that is only when I'm using elemental advantage. But against Dark raids, I'm not exactly utilizing elemental advantage since I don't have a lvled up light grid yet, and I'm often dying +- 1 turn of me using Fullburst.
Another reason I'm tempted to do so, is because Dark is one of my working teams that has a Hercules axe which I'm trying to MLB. So getting a few extra shards could speed up the process.



My second question is more of just curiosity on an almost impossible hypothetical situation.

This scenario is under the assumption that the account is brand new with 0 event SSRs at the moment.
If the new account manages to grab 5 Phantom Axes back to back, and we assume the 6th one will probably be a few months later or never.
What would be more ideal for said account:

1) Herc Axe+5 LB0 Phantom Axe all SKLVL20

2) Herc Axe+MLB Phantom Axe+LB0 Phantom Axe

I'm guessing the first one would probably be best for a brand new account, even more so if the player plans on being F2P. Grabbing a Herc Axe for each of the element would mean the account has secured(?) 5 Exceeds from the "equip 6 axe" bonuses, 225% HP and 150% ATK increase for "axe" stats.
Actually, wouldn't that still be quite good even for intermediate transitioning into end-game players too? Especially if they fill out the remaining 4 with duo/single assaults, which would also benefit more again if they happen to be axes?
Of course, I doubt anyone is gonna get that many axes without a long invested gameplay time(more than half a year even if lucky?). But if it does happen....

Originally Posted by kyc992

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3) Host Dark Ults, attack first turn, AABing starting second turn and pray I get sub-mvp half the time

Ult Darks are just complete assmonkeys. Give up. It also doesn't even matter if you use elemental advantage against it, since it only uses Dark damage against you during Overdrive. Just take your strongest team and settle for 1 Regalia + 2 shards.

Originally Posted by kyc992

2) Herc Axe+MLB Phantom Axe+LB0 Phantom Axe

As far as I know, Phantom effects don't stack. Otherwise the ultimate Grid would be 9x LMB Phantom Lances or something.

Originally Posted by kyc992

Got 2 questions

I've almost never used my Light team(same for my wind) due to the lack of good assault weapons(barely any LB2 SRs) and SSRs. I'm wondering if this will be viable:
1) Grab Andromeda's spear(extra hp regen) since I somehow have enough regalia for LB0 light soul weapon
2) Andromeda with Chaos Magic/Maiden's Prayer + Demeter + Belobog + SSRArtemis + Either Raphael or Nike(Unleashed) for even more healing
3) Host Dark Ults, attack first turn, AABing starting second turn and pray I get sub-mvp half the time

Reason I'm interested in trying this is that most of my teams when hosting, can get MVP 30% of the time, and sub-MVP 50% of the time assuming 20% of the time someone strong comes in and carries me before I wipe/deal enough damage. But that is only when I'm using elemental advantage. But against Dark raids, I'm not exactly utilizing elemental advantage since I don't have a lvled up light grid yet, and I'm often dying +- 1 turn of me using Fullburst.
Another reason I'm tempted to do so, is because Dark is one of my working teams that has a Hercules axe which I'm trying to MLB. So getting a few extra shards could speed up the process.



My second question is more of just curiosity on an almost impossible hypothetical situation.

This scenario is under the assumption that the account is brand new with 0 event SSRs at the moment.
If the new account manages to grab 5 Phantom Axes back to back, and we assume the 6th one will probably be a few months later or never.
What would be more ideal for said account:

1) Herc Axe+5 LB0 Phantom Axe all SKLVL20

2) Herc Axe+MLB Phantom Axe+LB0 Phantom Axe

I'm guessing the first one would probably be best for a brand new account, even more so if the player plans on being F2P. Grabbing a Herc Axe for each of the element would mean the account has secured(?) 5 Exceeds from the "equip 6 axe" bonuses, 225% HP and 150% ATK increase for "axe" stats.
Actually, wouldn't that still be quite good even for intermediate transitioning into end-game players too? Especially if they fill out the remaining 4 with duo/single assaults, which would also benefit more again if they happen to be axes?
Of course, I doubt anyone is gonna get that many axes without a long invested gameplay time(more than half a year even if lucky?). But if it does happen....

For your second question only 1 phantom weapon skill work so 5 lb0 sl20 phantom axe useless as you only got the skill from one of them and losing 4 weapon slot for 4 low stats weapon ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶s̶k̶i̶l̶l̶.
btw I actually got 4 Axe already, close to that 5 axe

Originally Posted by Slashley

Ult Darks are just complete assmonkeys. Give up. It also doesn't even matter if you use elemental advantage against it, since it only uses Dark damage against you during Overdrive. Just take your strongest team and settle for 1 Regalia + 2 shards.

Speaking of Dark damage, I've read somewhere saying Ele RST down also increases affliction rate for said element, does that work if we flip it around? Like grabbing Dark RST up lowering chance of Dark element's afflictions, because if it does wouldn't that make Barong quite useful against Dark Ult especially if we can run double Barong with a friend's?

Originally Posted by Slashley

As far as I know, Phantom effects don't stack. Otherwise the ultimate Grid would be 9x LMB Phantom Lances or something.

That sucks, but I guess even then people aren't gonna get 9X MLB phantom weapons of the same type that easily anyways.

Originally Posted by nut

For your second question only 1 phantom weapon skill work so 5 lb0 sl20 phantom axe useless as you only got the skill from one of them and losing 4 weapon slot for 4 low stats weapon without any skill.
btw I actually got 4 Axe already, close to that 5 axe

Nice~ Kinda sad it doesn't stack, but then again that would probably only widen the gap between newer players vs vets.

Originally Posted by Slashley

As far as I know, Phantom effects don't stack. Otherwise the ultimate Grid would be 9x LMB Phantom Lances or something.

Skill 1 doesn't. Skill 2 still takes effect...

But that's not exactly the most optimal thing to run anyway.

Originally Posted by kyc992

Speaking of Dark damage, I've read somewhere saying Ele RST down also increases affliction rate for said element, does that work if we flip it around? Like grabbing Dark RST up lowering chance of Dark element's afflictions, because if it does wouldn't that make Barong quite useful against Dark Ult especially if we can run double Barong with a friend's?--

Yes, having Elem Res- has the same effect as VoF. VoF + Elem Res- gives you an insane boost to affliction chance.

In reverse, unknown. Maybe? Maybe not.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Skill 1 doesn't. Skill 2 still takes effect...

But that's not exactly the most optimal thing to run anyway.

Then for a new player who missed most flb advent and UE weapon in the first run, if they manage to get 2 mlb of a phantom weapon, would the second one can still be used as filler and even better than SSR filler from raid event? (if they have good 2nd skill)

I have a question what is the damage cap on svarogs ability (at what point does stacking+100% ability damage is useless)

I read somewhere it's 300K per hit. However, since the ability damage skill is a linear buff, there is no real benefit to stack it, you won't gain more than using with the skill itself directly.

Yeah I guessed it maxed around 300k thank you
sometimes its just nice to store damage for rage and in accessory and guild order