Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Re: Acala

Her echo burst is a bit different; instead of being fixed damage like Takeminakata or having a base multiplier that then receives +burst buffs like Ea, it's directly proportional to her burst attack. So she smashes for whatever with her burst, then echoes for 80% (but capped at 500k instead of 1 million).

After awakening, she's finally good at her job of rage busting and if you're in the market for that, you're set. Personally I've gotten mileage out of her against wind catastrophe and lust (given a SSR pool of Acala/Uriel/Sun Ce/Prometheus). Otherwise, I have her come off the bench in the first sub slot.

That's what the wiki says I know. But I'm not too certain about the 80% part right now because I've had quite a few occasions where she did same or more dmg (not by too much) than her main burst. It usually happens when I burst for less than between 500k~900k. Also, I'm not the only one who seen it happened.

Two cases I've seen recently:
1. Main burst 496k, echo 534k
2. Main burst 837k, echo 822k

I have 60% Exceed so my burst and echo cap are 1.6m and 800k respectively.

... It's not consistent and numbers aren't making sense, and I'm still trying to figure it out =_=;

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That's what the wiki says I know. But I'm not too certain about the 80% part right now because I've had quite a few occasions where she did same or more dmg (not by too much) than her main burst. It usually happens when I burst for less than between 500k~900k. Also, I'm not the only one who seen it happened.

Two cases I've seen recently:
1. Main burst 496k, echo 534k
2. Main burst 837k, echo 822k

I have 60% Exceed so my burst and echo cap are 1.6m and 800k respectively.

... It's not consistent and numbers aren't making sense, and I'm still trying to figure it out =_=;

Can crits proc separately on burst and echo? I don't have any echo burst himes, so I can't test it out myself, but if crits can proc separately, that could explain it.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

Can crits proc separately on burst and echo? I don't have any echo burst himes, so I can't test it out myself, but if crits can proc separately, that could explain it.

I'm not sure whether crit can proc on echo, but that wouldn't matter in my case because... I wasn't running with any crit weapon or buff at all.

Not really sure why Acala is so undervalued (her base form is pretty bad I guess), but AW, she becomes useful way before you become a spacewhale and hitting 2m caps... nor should you really be looking to replace Uriel with her (Uriel's constant triples are really useful on their own). In fact, as soon as you starts to near the 1m caps and looking at exceed, an AW acala looks more and more interesting, on top of that, she's pretty fast and strong on her own (her self buff is almost always on). IMO, she makes a good third in a party after Uriel and Svarog (against debuff resistant content). Sure, not a top tier hime until you become a space whale, but certainly plenty useful way before that.

If you have eyes, and don't have anything else more pressing to use them on, I'd AW her... she'll be helpful in wind tower for sure.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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If you have eyes, and don't have anything else more pressing to use them on, I'd AW her... she'll be helpful in wind tower for sure.

Nobody should have problems with Awakenings anymore. All the bottlenecks have been removed.

For Dragon Eyes specifically, as long as you land in top50 of Union Event Ults - not a tall order in the slightest - you're going to have a monthly income of ~18 Dragon Shards. Since there's at most 1 Awakening per month, this means that you can Awaken every second Hime. And if you have more than that to Awaken, then you're also nearly guaranteed to be pulling duplicates, taking care of that problem.

The Gem cost is no longer an issue (Gem Gacha HEs and Gem Quests), nor are books (Advent repricing).

Sooo... yeah. Everyone should be Awakening all of their Hime anyway.

This one more for DMM players, what is the best light AAB team for hrags?

Originally Posted by Slashley

Nobody should have problems with Awakenings anymore. All the bottlenecks have been removed.

For Dragon Eyes specifically, as long as you land in top50 of Union Event Ults - not a tall order in the slightest - you're going to have a monthly income of ~18 Dragon Shards. Since there's at most 1 Awakening per month, this means that you can Awaken every second Hime. And if you have more than that to Awaken, then you're also nearly guaranteed to be pulling duplicates, taking care of that problem.

The Gem cost is no longer an issue (Gem Gacha HEs and Gem Quests), nor are books (Advent repricing).

Sooo... yeah. Everyone should be Awakening all of their Hime anyway.

The only bottleneck I'm experiencing is those damn sacred star stones... ugh... it's a royal pain picking up enough to FLB a weapon, much less total number needed for the 5 or so weapons I still have to do.


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Slashley

For Dragon Eyes specifically, as long as you land in top50 of Union Event Ults - not a tall order in the slightest

What is this ivory tower bullcrap

Originally Posted by Dejnov

The only bottleneck I'm experiencing is those damn sacred star stones... ugh... it's a royal pain picking up enough to FLB a weapon, much less the 5 or so I still have to do.

The only way to get T4 Stones is just through outright farming. Do you have an excess stock of HEs? Spend one day getting rid of them by farming one Mon-Sat 50 AP dailies with double Vlads, while you watch YouTube or Netflix or something. I'm personally staying about +-0 of them just by doing one 50 AP one for the daily, as well as spending my AP on them during in-between Events days.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What is this ivory tower bullcrap

Really? That's top (30 * 50 = ) 1500 players. Considering how Nutaku has like, what, ~1k people playing the game seriously, is that really too much to ask? During Greed, according to the other thread, highscore pp 2 023 672 got you rank 1217. And 2m PP is NOT difficult at all.

It looks like my Union is getting top50 (might drop just out in the last day, we'll see) with just TWO people doing the work. I didn't really even bother. Thanks for the carry, guys!

If you doubt in your ability to get accepted into the Unions that reach the top constantly (Ixion, Amaterasu, Drama Club, Susurrus, etc.) then fair enough. But have a look at places 10-20 and just apply there and chances are you'll do just fine.

Which is a better weapon for a pure lightning team?
(SSR) Lvl 100 - 74 hp - 1936 attack - Pride
(SR) Lvl 85 - 96 hp - 1566 attack - Assault

The SR is currently at skill level 4 but somebody told me to never raise an SR past that level so it's unlikely I'll ever level its assault skill past 4 - I have other weapons which take priority anyway. Granted, it seems to be the general consensus that Pride is ass so I'll probably never level the SSR's skill regardless. Probably will raise my Defender SSR before it since it gives a tangible benefit.