Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Argo

I can't FLB that Phoenix Bow though since I don't have event materials. Didn't know they were necessary until after it ended and I'd spent everything.

It was only my brother and I working in our Union, so the vast majority of my union weapons are poor. I have only a single copy each of Proud Axe Lumina Banish and Light Staff of Guilty Pride. Will there be more events where I could get more copies now that we've joined a larger union?

I don't have any Phantom weapons, so I'd rather not make plans around them. My luck is notoriously bad. I was planning to use my Tower earnings to get bricks for Michael's lance, though. Wasn't sure what to do after that, if I should work on Tish's or a different element's weapons.

If you not have any 100% eido, just go light, that element is broken

Argo has recommended I take my questions to the forums, so here I am. I'm looking to make my Lightning team worth a damn as it's practically my weakest team. I've just managed to obtain enough Regalia for a Soul Weapon, and am curious what I should spend it on. A long time ago, I purchased Charles' Thunder Blaster, though that was probably because that was all that was out at the time.
Nowadays, I have much better Hime and every Soul except Shingen. With only 90/600 HSP, she's not going to be available for a long time.

My current set up (I swear I didn't mean to pun like that!) is Arthur, Marduk, Raiko, Tyr (Awakened), and Gryla; with [Thunder Witch] Michael and Thor in reserve. Arthur has Olean Call, though I don't know why, it's been a while since I've used this team. Main Eidolon is a 1star Kirin, and my Grid is shit.




According to my brother, I'll have to work on those SSR weapons even if they don't have and breaks in them. In fact, I'll pay more attention and do that for all my teams.

So basically, what I'd like to know is:

1. If I should buy a new Soul Weapon, maybe for Mordred or Andromeda, or should I break the one I have for D'Art?
2. Should I stick with Gryla for heals or bring in Andromeda or the Sol I just got from this last MTick?

the fact that you have kirin and your thunder is the weakest element make me believe that you have 100% eido for other element too. Which mean you not gonna invest your MT on BaalU which make your team can’t run shingen. So i would say Herc is ok for your thunder team because it gonna stay shit forever because you already miss so many UE weapon

As for healing opption for your thunder team. If i were you i will go fuck heal and run Cyclops instead of Gryla. But if you still want to use thunder for s o m e r e a s o n. Then Sol AW is a good opption. Adro is for supporting Warag

Originally Posted by Argo

Okay, I'll try the team without TbJ for now then. But if both Herc with PF or Shingen with EI work, then I don't know whose Soul Weapon to buy ;__;



Is Artemis worth using my next M.Ticket for? My current team is fast and hits -50% Def down, so I don't think she's necessary, right? I'd rather use the next one on either my Darks, Fires, or Waters.




Wow, really? I've been ignoring most of my non-broken SSRs. If they have at least one break like my Satan's and Samael's weapons I've worked on them a little bit, but I thought base power was more important. I definitely have room for more SSRs in my dark grid if they're better than my SRs.
Oh, and like I mentioned earlier the Dark UE Axe in my grid is 3-star, and I have two more copies. Should I put the others to 1-star and raise it up too? Will there be events I can get more copies?

Attached are my Dark and Light grids. There's plenty of SRs I could drop for the weapons of Amaterasu, Thanatos, Kali, Chernobog, and/or Osiris. It'll take a while to level up their skills, though. Do you think I should switch focus to those, or keep working on leveling my Fire weapons for the Tower?
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And there isn't much room on my Light Grid. The SR lance is giving Shingen a preferred weapon boost - is that still worth swapping out for Atum and Frey's weapons? I just got those two SRs to skill level 17 and 18, too...at what skill level on the SSRs would I want to swap them in over the SRs?
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If you're base assault is around 50,000 Assault and 7,500 Hp, using a weapon that is Assault+ and Defender+ will add 6,5k assault and 975 hp when equipped (+13% each) which is a total bonus of 7,500 additional power. This far more than the 400 assault and 30 hp you lose when replacing an level 85 Assault+ SR. Add about four or five weapons like that and you'll add over 50% to your hitpoints, while losing very little assault. That takes the average Hime from 7,500 hp to 12,000 hp. Your survivability will go up dramatically.

Remember going from Assault+ (SR weapon) to Assault++ (SSR weapon) adds base 3% or an overall ~1.3% additional assault (rule of thumb). That means at 50,000 base assault even if the weapon loses 400 assault it gains 650 assault from the additional strength (net 250 assault for your team). That generally makes them a push. It's when it has the defender that there's no competition.


I don't think Artemis is necessary for the next MTix, you'd probably be better of picking up either Lugh, Iris, or Takeminakata if you're helping your Light team or picking up Pluto for your Dark team.


If you're around ~80 to 100% assault for Fire, it's fine to turn back to your main teams. That's around 12 to 15 skill level for SRs and 10 or so for SSRs. More helps, but you should really work to up your main team most of the time. If that's Light, look for an assault/defender weapon and up that and put it in your grid. You should see no loss in damage and decent up in hit points every time you replace them.


The Light SR lance is definitely not as strong as Eros or Frey's weapon. Replace that for sure. (I'd keep it just in case a phantom lance drops for you and you need to jump to five lance weapons immediately.)


Dejnov.


P.S. Keep the UE Axe we get some more chances at it in a couple of months. You can at least FLB the one you have (if it's already at skill level 20).

Originally Posted by Argo

I can't FLB that Phoenix Bow though since I don't have event materials. Didn't know they were necessary until after it ended and I'd spent everything.

It was only my brother and I working in our Union, so the vast majority of my union weapons are poor. I have only a single copy each of Proud Axe Lumina Banish and Light Staff of Guilty Pride. Will there be more events where I could get more copies now that we've joined a larger union?

I don't have any Phantom weapons, so I'd rather not make plans around them. My luck is notoriously bad. I was planning to use my Tower earnings to get bricks for Michael's lance, though. Wasn't sure what to do after that, if I should work on Tish's or a different element's weapons.

Stick with bricking Michael's Lance for now; Trish's weapon gets Assault (3rd skill) on her FLB upgrade. At that point it becomes viable. Look at your other Dark and Light weapons (Lances, Glaives, Hammers, and Bows) all have Assault. You'll want to Brick them (Chernobog's Lance for example).


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Quarters

Argo has recommended I take my questions to the forums, so here I am. I'm looking to make my Lightning team worth a damn as it's practically my weakest team. I've just managed to obtain enough Regalia for a Soul Weapon, and am curious what I should spend it on. A long time ago, I purchased Charles' Thunder Blaster, though that was probably because that was all that was out at the time.
Nowadays, I have much better Hime and every Soul except Shingen. With only 90/600 HSP, she's not going to be available for a long time.

My current set up (I swear I didn't mean to pun like that!) is Arthur, Marduk, Raiko, Tyr (Awakened), and Gryla; with [Thunder Witch] Michael and Thor in reserve. Arthur has Olean Call, though I don't know why, it's been a while since I've used this team. Main Eidolon is a 1star Kirin, and my Grid is shit.




According to my brother, I'll have to work on those SSR weapons even if they don't have and breaks in them. In fact, I'll pay more attention and do that for all my teams.

So basically, what I'd like to know is:

1. If I should buy a new Soul Weapon, maybe for Mordred or Andromeda, or should I break the one I have for D'Art?
2. Should I stick with Gryla for heals or bring in Andromeda or the Sol I just got from this last MTick?

With Marduk, Raiko and Tyr you're fairly fast (even possibly Shingen fast). I'd replace Gryla with Thor (paralysis) and just take the hits. You should run Hercules with her Axe (at the least) and work to limit breaking that. It'll get you -25% DEF (which you're missing right now).

As recommended to your brother, any SSR weapon with both Assault/Defender should be leveled and also skill raised immediately. That means Raiko's and Marduk's are the first you should go for. An awesome choice is Raiko's; it gives Assault++/Pride which is all offense! Raise that shit first. Your team should benefit greatly just from that.

If you really need some healing, you can give Hercules Perdu lab and hope that keeps you going. Or use Orlean Call, but I wouldn't use Andromeda as your base soul. She'll slow you down and keep getting you killed. You need a soul that's fast in your first slot. That's either Shingen or Hercules. And either soul weapon is a solid long term investment.

Dejnov.


P.S. As above, MTix for Baal Unleashed for your 4th slot. Screw healing and just go all assault with Lightning.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

If you're base assault is around 50,000 Assault and 7,500 Hp, using a weapon that is Assault+ and Defender+ will add 6,5k assault and 975 hp when equipped (+13% each) which is a total bonus of 7,500 additional power. This far more than the 400 assault and 30 hp you lose when replacing an level 85 Assault+ SR. Add about four or five weapons like that and you'll add over 50% to your hitpoints, while losing very little assault. That takes the average Hime from 7,500 hp to 12,000 hp. Your survivability will go up dramatically.

Remember going from Assault+ (SR weapon) to Assault++ (SSR weapon) adds base 3% or an overall ~1.3% additional assault (rule of thumb). That means at 50,000 base assault even if the weapon loses 400 assault it gains 650 assault from the additional strength (net 250 assault for your team). That generally makes them a push. It's when it has the defender that there's no competition.


I don't think Artemis is necessary for the next MTix, you'd probably be better of picking up either Lugh, Iris, or Takeminakata if you're helping your Light team or picking up Pluto for your Dark team.


If you're around ~80 to 100% assault for Fire, it's fine to turn back to your main teams. That's around 12 to 15 skill level for SRs and 10 or so for SSRs. More helps, but you should really work to up your main team most of the time. If that's Light, look for an assault/defender weapon and up that and put it in your grid. You should see no loss in damage and decent up in hit points every time you replace them.


The Light SR lance is definitely not as strong as Eros or Frey's weapon. Replace that for sure. (I'd keep it just in case a phantom lance drops for you and you need to jump to five lance weapons immediately.)


Dejnov.


P.S. Keep the UE Axe we get some more chances at it in a couple of months. You can at least FLB the one you have (if it's already at skill level 20).

Stick with bricking Michael's Lance for now; Trish's weapon gets Assault (3rd skill) on her FLB upgrade. At that point it becomes viable. Look at your other Dark and Light weapons (Lances, Glaives, Hammers, and Bows) all have Assault. You'll want to Brick them (Chernobog's Lance for example).


Dejnov.

Alrighty then, I'll start working on my SSRs. Thanks for all the help again. Damn, guess I was wasting time leveling the SRs. So many wasted R weapons...oh well, live and learn. Should I replace the SRs in my grids with them right away (well, after they hit lv50), or is it better to wait until they get to an equivalent skill level to the SR they're replacing? Leveling skills feels like the slowest thing for me right now.

And these are my available SSRs for my Light, Dark, and Fires. Are there any I should prioritize over others? Like, for Darks Kali's weapon has Pride and Barrage, would that be more important than Amaterasu's mirror for example?


And does getting a single Phantom drop really mean overhauling the whole grid? I thought you'd want several before committing to that.

And what do Lugh, Iris, and Takeminakata do? I hadn't heard of them before today. And who would they replace?
And I guess Pluto would probably replace Chernobog on my Darks were I to go after her, yes? Kyc was telling me about her earlier.

Originally Posted by Argo

Alrighty then, I'll start working on my SSRs. Thanks for all the help again. Damn, guess I was wasting time leveling the SRs. So many wasted R weapons...oh well, live and learn. Should I replace the SRs in my grids with them right away (well, after they hit lv50), or is it better to wait until they get to an equivalent skill level to the SR they're replacing? Leveling skills feels like the slowest thing for me right now.

And these are my available SSRs for my Light, Dark, and Fires. Are there any I should prioritize over others? Like, for Darks Kali's weapon has Pride and Barrage, would that be more important than Amaterasu's mirror for example?


And does getting a single Phantom drop really mean overhauling the whole grid? I thought you'd want several before committing to that.

And what do Lugh, Iris, and Takeminakata do? I hadn't heard of them before today. And who would they replace?
And I guess Pluto would probably replace Chernobog on my Darks were I to go after her, yes? Kyc was telling me about her earlier.

The only grid I see having future is fire, dark and light is hopeless, please focus one 1 element at a time, finish 1 and move on to another.

Lugh have 20% C frame def down, 400k nuke which turn into 800k after burst, and her 3rd skill which make her broken is reset her nuke with the cost of 15%...20% of her max HP, and you can use it every turn, I know, it crazy, the dev are on crack when making light hime so get use to it already, her passive is receive double the heal from any source to cover her suicidal 3rd skill. Iris have a 1m nuke 6t CD, a 30% light resist down (RIP Tsukuyomi no one will remember you) and a every turn spam gacha game on her 3rd skill which give her a random buff card ( 6 type of buff like assault, element atk, abi dmg, DA, TA,etc and a rainbow card) and 10% BG; when she burst all her buff card she hold activate for 3t I think, those buff are really strong and if you have rainbow card you get all 6 type of buff. Those 2 are future hime, about take you can look her up on wiki but tbh I don’t think she worth a MT

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The only grid I see having future is fire, dark and light is hopeless, please focus one 1 element at a time, finish 1 and move on to another.

Huh? What do you mean my Fire is better than my Light? I figure my Fires would need Svarog and Amaterasu before they become decent, whereas my Lights have been clearing content I never could before thanks to the tips I've been getting lately.
If you're talking about limit breaks on the weapons, I'm sorry but I'm no whale. And I'm not very lucky, either.