Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Now that I've got a Light team, I'm trying to work on the grid and I realized that it's pretty bad. No defenders, and mostly SRs. I've been advised that running null lance would give me enough HP but I don't have a phantom lance so that doesn't help. Even if I did, I only have Mich and Tish Lance, counting Shingen's Lance(who I won't be getting until around July...) that only gives me 4. It's something I will be aiming for, but not something that can help me now.

So instead I thought up of some ways to work around my grid, and the only possible things I can think up of are the following:

1) Since I do have a phantom hammer(LB1) along with 1 SSR hammer(Nandi) and 4 SR hammers(raid) I was wondering if it was fine to substitute one of my SR Assaults for a Defender SSR(Raphael staff or Tsuku bow).

2) Use HP soul weapons, I don't have Shingen yet, so my soul will probably be Herc(for dmg) or Andro(already have a LB0 Andro HP weapon from being dumb), D'Art may also be an option since she is more justified for running an HP soul weapon compared to other souls

3) Ignore the Idea of 1-2, run Ele Soul weapon(Not sure which soul to run for now), 2 Defender SSRs, 2 Nandi SSRs+Mich Lance(benching Tish lance for now) and fill remaining slots with SR assaults

4) Since I also have Fluffy, use char atk/hp friend support eidolons

The above are my ideas for what I can do in my "current situation", mostly thanks to Fluffy allowing me some breathing room to slightly sacrifice a bit of assault for defender. I was wondering if anybody could give me some insight on which of the above are ways that I can do without too much of a sacrifice.

I don’t know why you need Defender that much but HP weapon Joan or Andro is good support comp, and those 2 can help your team survive better. I belive with Tish and Mike your team won’t be too slow and the dmg will not too bad with hammer null grid and Fluffy

Reason I'm trying to get a few Defenders is because I'm currently sitting at 6kish HP, and that's with LB0 Andro HP weapon at SL6... and 7-8k HP if I also borrow a friendly 20% HP eido. Might also be because my Fire team, which is my main, is at around 9-10k HP without the need for a pure Defender weapon or HP eido. The sudden drop of almost 40% HP makes me feel kinda weak.

Typically, early on, running 1 SSR defender weapon (that also has decent stats to function as a stat stick too) in your grid is okay for the extra HP until you can cover it with raw stats from an ssr grid. However, I really wouldn't recommend 2, as that would have a much bigger impact on your damage and doesn't give as much due to diminishing returns. This is mainly why people love dual skill assault/hp weapons, they fill this spot perfectly without a lot of drawback. So if you have tsuku's bow, just use it (it's not pure defender).

Main reason why I considered 2 at first was because a single SSR Defender at SL20 would give me the exact same HP % as my current Andro soul weapon, and if I switch that to an Ele ATK Herc Axe I'd still be at about 7k HP which isn't really a boost to my HP. Since I had Fluffy which gives me roughly 40% Ele ATK more than running a 40/45% Eido, I thought it'd be ok to sacrifice another SR Assault for SSR Defender which should give me around 1.5K HP or so, which translates into more damage by living longer. Also that one of my Defender at least had an Assault which is 10% at SL20, so was thinking it wouldn't be TOO big of a loss. Which was why I wondered if it was worth FLBing Tsuku bow before Tish Lance(since I won't have 6 lances/phantom lance yet) and after Mich lance, because that upgrades the Assault to the next level.

But yeah, I might be a bit too paranoid about it, and 2 Defenders might be overkill.

Originally Posted by nut

It's worth it, 3% assault loss (if not mention the pride lost hp bonus) for about 2-3k atk plus the Assault L and Defender L from the lance, need you weapon detail for specific
btw which element you gonna usi.ng that lance for?

I'm using it for fire.
Currently my grid consists of:
1. SSR Shingen SPEAR - 2LB (working towards MLB)
2. SSR Acala's SWORD - 0LB Assault (L)
3. SSR Shuttle Bubble HAMMER - MLB Assault (M) Defender (S)
4. SSR Uriel's GUN - 0LB Pride (L)
5. SSR Fire BOW Guilty Wrath - MLB Pride (L)
6. SSR Brutal LANCE Typhoeus - MLB Assault (L)
7. SSR Haloeris Ankh - 1LB Assault (M) Defender (S)
8. SSR Svarog's AXE - 0LB Assault (L)
9. SR Fate Stealer - MLB Assault (M)
10. SR Hino Kagutsuchi (Lance) - MLB Assault (M)

3 of the ones in bold (not both bold and italics) are the ones I plan to replace with the Phantom Lance as well as some MLB SR Assault (M) Lances and possibly 1 MLB SR Assault (S) Exceed (S) Lance

EDIT: Here are the rest of my Lances (other than the ones above):
*MLB SSR Dragon Spear Fell Tepes - has Assault (M) and Stinger (S)
*0LB SSR Dragon Spear Fell Tepes
The rest are SRs:
*2LB (will buy a brick from eido shop if I have to) Piercing Fire Spear - has Assault (M), 3rd highest max total power (2022) and ATK (1932) out of all Assault (M) SRs.
*MLB Maris Lancea - has Assault (M), max ttl pwer 1770 (17th out of all Assault (M) SRs), max ATK 1674 (16th out of all Assault (M) SRs)
*MLB Izushi Long Spear - Assault (S) and Exceed (S), max ttl pwer 1806, max ATK 1740
*2LB Izushi Long Spear
*0LB (will buy 3 bricks from eido shop if I have to) Hino Kagutsuchi - has Assault (M), 2nd highest max total power (2082) and ATK (2010) out of all Assault (M) SRs

Originally Posted by Rea

I'm using it for fire.
Currently my grid consists of:
1. SSR Shingen SPEAR - 2LB (working towards MLB)
2. SSR Acala's SWORD - 0LB Assault (L)
3. SSR Shuttle Bubble HAMMER - MLB Assault (M) Defender (S)
4. SSR Uriel's GUN - 0LB Pride (L)
5. SSR Fire BOW Guilty Wrath - MLB Pride (L)
6. SSR Brutal LANCE Typhoeus - MLB Assault (L)
7. SSR Haloeris Ankh - 1LB Assault (M) Defender (S)
8. SSR Svarog's AXE - 0LB Assault (L)
9. SR Fate Stealer - MLB Assault (M)
10. SR Hino Kagutsuchi (Lance) - MLB Assault (M)


3 of the ones in bold (not both bold and italics) are the ones I plan to replace with the Phantom Lance as well as some MLB SR Assault (M) Lances and possibly 1 MLB SR Assault (S) Exceed (S) Lance

EDIT: Here are the rest of my Lances (other than the ones above):
*MLB SSR Dragon Spear Fell Tepes - has Assault (M) and Stinger (S)
*0LB SSR Dragon Spear Fell Tepes
The rest are SRs:
*2LB (will buy a brick from eido shop if I have to) Piercing Fire Spear - has Assault (M), 3rd highest max total power (2022) and ATK (1932) out of all Assault (M) SRs.
*MLB Maris Lancea - has Assault (M), max ttl pwer 1770 (17th out of all Assault (M) SRs), max ATK 1674 (16th out of all Assault (M) SRs)
*MLB Izushi Long Spear - Assault (S) and Exceed (S), max ttl pwer 1806, max ATK 1740
*2LB Izushi Long Spear
*0LB (will buy 3 bricks from eido shop if I have to) Hino Kagutsuchi - has Assault (M), 2nd highest max total power (2082) and ATK (2010) out of all Assault (M) SRs

You hoarding quite amount of SR lance here
I think grid will do:
1. SSR Shingen SPEAR - 2LB (working towards MLB)
2. MLB SSR Dragon Spear Fell Tepes
3. SSR Shuttle Bubble HAMMER - MLB Assault (M) Defender (S)
4. Phantom Lance
5. SSR Fire BOW Guilty Wrath - MLB Pride (L)
6. SSR Brutal LANCE Typhoeus - MLB Assault (L)
7. SSR Haloeris Ankh - 1LB Assault (M) Defender (S)
8. SSR Fire Sword Guilty Wrath (next UE in about 2 weeks)
9. SR Izushi Long Spear or another SR Assault
10. SR Hino Kagutsuchi (Lance) - MLB Assault (M)
Compare to your old grid, this grid better in both skill and stats (much better in stats).

Originally Posted by kyc992

Main reason why I considered 2 at first was because a single SSR Defender at SL20 would give me the exact same HP % as my current Andro soul weapon, and if I switch that to an Ele ATK Herc Axe I'd still be at about 7k HP which isn't really a boost to my HP. Since I had Fluffy which gives me roughly 40% Ele ATK more than running a 40/45% Eido, I thought it'd be ok to sacrifice another SR Assault for SSR Defender which should give me around 1.5K HP or so, which translates into more damage by living longer. Also that one of my Defender at least had an Assault which is 10% at SL20, so was thinking it wouldn't be TOO big of a loss. Which was why I wondered if it was worth FLBing Tsuku bow before Tish Lance(since I won't have 6 lances/phantom lance yet) and after Mich lance, because that upgrades the Assault to the next level.

But yeah, I might be a bit too paranoid about it, and 2 Defenders might be overkill.

If you have to use anymore than 1 brick to FLB the bow, don't (and even one is debatable for the short term gain - KH is a long term game). Bricks are in short supply, and you will need a LOT of them for make a good grid for light. Once you FLB Michael's lance, what you want is to get another Michael lance (through mtix if necessary) and use bricks on that. From the sound of things, you probably don't have the crossover spear either, so you will also likely want bricks for Lugh's spear as well (it's not the best, but you'll already get it if you're maining Light and will help complete your spear grid). Those 3 + Tish spear + Shingen spear will allow you to run your grid. The last thing you want to do is spend bricks on things that you won't keep in the long run.

Originally Posted by nut

8. SSR Fire Sword Guilty Wrath (next UE in about 2 weeks)

If the fire UE is coming back, then I could get another Fire BOW Guilty Wrath. In the grid you described above, I have 7 spears, which is 1 more than I need (6 needed to proc. the phantom lance's skills)

Originally Posted by Rea

If the fire UE is coming back, then I could get another Fire BOW Guilty Wrath. In the grid you described above, I have 7 spears, which is 1 more than I need (6 needed to proc. the phantom lance's skills)

There is 6 lance here
1. SSR Shingen SPEAR - 2LB (working towards MLB)
2. MLB SSR Dragon Spear Fell Tepes
4. Phantom Lance
6. SSR Brutal LANCE Typhoeus - MLB Assault (L)
9. SR Izushi Long Spear or another SR Assault
10. SR Hino Kagutsuchi (Lance) - MLB Assault (M)
The fire UE is coming back at apr 24th, but I don't think you should put 2 UE bow here, unless you flb them, and you should priority flb the lance and the sword first.