Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Thanks for the answers everyone. Sorry, another quick question. During the tower event, when it says to survive with x number of party member, does that automatically include the soul or is it only kamihime? Just wanna know so I can prepare for next time accurately. Been thinking it was strictly only kamihime but now I'm starting to think it's both kamihime and soul.

That includes the soul.

i'd like to add, if you fail the floor, mobs will not regain hp (i.e. if you failed at 10%, next try will show you 10%) - so dont overkill

Thank you for the answers and tips. One more question. Approximately how much power is usually needed to handle Accessory level 4 either manually or even auto if possible. I never attempted to take the risk before getting Hercules so I never done above level 3 yet. Currently I'm sitting at 41697 power with my fire team consisting of:

Hercules (just got her and only have her soul weapon at LB0)
Ares (not awakened yet; will likely be able to after union event depending on how much shards I earned)
Mars
Amaterasu
Brynhildr

For main team and backup are:
Takeminakata (I know not fire, but her burst nuke is a lifesaver)
Mammon (just there because I don't know which of my current SR fires are considered good as backup or main)

My SR fires that I have are: Ragaraja, Themis, Amon, Nergal, Agni, and Motu

Thank you for reading this anyone and for the help and once again, sorry for all the question. Just want to make sure I'm able to do everything safely.

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

golden week

Alright you got me... what's golden week?


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by ChaoticShinra

-- Approximately how much power is usually needed to handle Accessory level 4 either manually --

A full SR Assault at slvl20 Grid should easily be able to do AQ4 with a full SR team. It should be possible well before that too.

Originally Posted by ChaoticShinra

-- Mammon (just there because I don't know which of my current SR fires are considered good as backup or main)--

Once you have a proper Grid, off-elementers won't do any real damage. Well, Take can be a slightly different story due to that fixed Burst bonus.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

Alright you got me... what's golden week?

Japanese week of different holidays in a row, through sheer coincidence. Google it if you care.

What is better: Character Attack, Elemental Attack, Special Attack?

What Special Attack stand for anyway?

There are Eidolons with that buff but I don't know what does it boost.

The highly simplified damage formula is:

Base ATK x (1+assault) x (1+elemental) x (1+special)

Character attack goes into the assault value, which is where weapons assault and pride values go as well. Elemental includes elemental advantages. The nature of the formula means that you always want to increase the type that is the lowest.

When you are starting out and you have no weapon skills, anything that gives you the highest % is best. When you start leveling your weapons grid, assault tends to be much higher than elemental, so elemental becomes much more valuable. In theory, special attack is the most valuable since you can't get that from weapons at all (yet), but there are often special conditions attached to making the special attack active, which make them a pain to use.

tl;dr - elemental is usually the best for eidolons.

Since elemental is usually better, would that mean that Ouroboros (Dark/Thunder atk 40%) be better than Girimehkala (Thunder char atk 50%) for my thunder (secondary team) in the long run? Or would Giri additional burst streak dmg would make her superior? I'm working thunder slowly but don't have any of the assault weapon skills leveled so I would assume at the start that Giri would be better till I near maxed the assault skills

Originally Posted by ChaoticShinra

Since elemental is usually better, would that mean that Ouroboros (Dark/Thunder atk 40%) be better than Girimehkala (Thunder char atk 50%) for my thunder (secondary team) in the long run? Or would Giri additional burst streak dmg would make her superior? I'm working thunder slowly but don't have any of the assault weapon skills leveled so I would assume at the start that Giri would be better till I near maxed the assault skills

So assume you have about 120% character assault from your weapon grid (9 weapons at 13% each) and a Soul weapon with 30% elemental assault. Currently your total assault bonus is 2.2X1.3 or a total of 2.86 assault upgrade.

Ouroboros would change that to 120% character X 70% elemental or 2.2X1.7 for a total of 3.74 assault.

Grimehkala would change it to 170% character X 30% elemental or 2.7 X 1.3 for a total of 3.51 assault.


In this example Ouroboros is clearly better.


Dejnov.