Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by MajinLuffy

Now, I still got enough coins to pull from two 3000 coins banners.

The highest priority pulls are SSR Kamihime Gatcha (3000-5000g) and Miracle tickets (5000g, next one available at Christmas). Use your remaining gold on those. Miracle tickets in particular are pretty essential if you want to build a good team with your +100% eidolon. SSR Kamihime Gatcha has more of a cumulative effect over time and is good for those who want to build teams for multiple elements and leverage elemental advantage.

Originally Posted by MajinLuffy

-- I don't consider myself a whale but I don't mind spending money when there is a good deal.--

Gambling is never a good deal. If you're going to do a pull on each of those elements, then what's the difference pulling the normal pay-gacha six times?

Nothing. (Okay fine, you get an extra SR. Wow.)

It's a bad, bad deal if you think about it for a second. But of course, the way the shop is set up is meant to amaze you and make you think as if you're getting some sort of deal. Please, think before you spend.

Only the Black Friday 10 SC deal can be a "good" deal because it's basically nothing for... nothing. If you HAVE loaded up SC into your account (like the 98 bucks one which leaves you with an awkward amount), you're literally not losing out on anything. Beyond the first step though, it's a bad deal again - you're paying 30 bucks for a 50% chance of wasting your money (SSR Eidolons, since you'll basically never find a 100% one).

The only "good" deals are Miracle Tickets, because you know what you're getting. Is it worth 50 bucks for you to get the SSR Hime you want? Up to you. But that's BY FAR the best value for money you can get. After that, it's the exclusive Gachas. On average 100 bucks for the exclusive SSR in that gacha. These are run very rarely, and they're still gambling - you might get nothing even after spending 400 bucks, so be careful about that. And after that, the only thing even remotely worth it is the SSR Hime guaranteeds. 30 bucks for a fair chance of getting something useful.

Everything else is just pure gambling and thus purely a waste of your money. If you have more IRL money than what you spend, go ahead - knock yourself out.

I have a section in my guide devoted to optimal use of real money. This is derived from calculations I ran in my Gatcha Calculator (Toolbox), which is in turn based on extensive data on rates collected from a combination of reroll data and whale inventories.

how do the ennance accesory materials works exactly?

is there a point to lvl up these materials before REAL accesories?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

is there a point to lvl up these materials before REAL accesories?

All Tiaras are REAL accessories. I don't think that "Ancient SSRs" will be much of an upgrade over literally any half-decent Tiara. Even R quality Tiaras.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

how do the ennance accesory materials works exactly?

Beats me. I wish a certain someone would update their Accessory calc.

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

lol?

Anubis orb removal summon effect? Hrae def down summon effect? not good as fire water and thunder?

wind do not need full wind eidos btw

Oops, my bad about the wind eido.
I didn't mean that their summon effects are worse or that they suck as eidos, just that considering they all have some summon effect besides dmg, light and dark eidos feel worse than the others because you need a whole roster of same element eidos to get the 100% dmg passive. Which is the most important reason to get them in the first place. So you would be filling your eidolon roster with whatever eido from the same element you get without caring if its summon effect is good or not.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The highest priority pulls are SSR Kamihime Gatcha (3000-5000g) and Miracle tickets (5000g, next one available at Christmas). Use your remaining gold on those. Miracle tickets in particular are pretty essential if you want to build a good team with your +100% eidolon. SSR Kamihime Gatcha has more of a cumulative effect over time and is good for those who want to build teams for multiple elements and leverage elemental advantage.

I see, yeah, I guess kamihimes are also better because you don't need extra copies to get their full strength so unless it's a 100% dmg eido (which are incredibly rare, i know, i rerolled a lot xD) it's better to wait for event eidos you can farm and fully limit break. Christmas being pretty much right now and not planning to spend more money on this game so soon, yeah, wait for miracle ticket it is. Thanks!

And well, when I said a good deal I meant it was a better deal than how normally is. It's not like I never intended to spend money on the game and the banners amazed me and I broke my bank account for them. I did get more gold for my money than the normal nutaku rate, I also got more magic jewels than normal when changing the gold to coins. Also, I didn't pull on the banners expecting to draw a specific unit. I just saw the black friday banner as a good opportunity to get more good units faster for less coins (which I did) and the water banner to improve my water roster. Considering I only had 2 water himes, was still getting everything except water himes from the gatcha and there doesn't seem to be a water based event soon, I also got what I wanted.

Anyway, I raaarely try pulling for specific units with money because I know how bad the rates are, and considering how this game seems to work I don't see myself spending much more money in the future when I already have a decent team because I see spending money in these types of games as getting quick boosts, and here it seems it gets less effective the stronger you are because, well, you'd need specific units at that point.

Originally Posted by MajinLuffy

Oops, my bad about the wind eido.
I didn't mean that their summon effects are worse or that they suck as eidos, just that considering they all have some summon effect besides dmg, light and dark eidos feel worse than the others because you need a whole roster of same element eidos to get the 100% dmg passive. Which is the most important reason to get them in the first place. So you would be filling your eidolon roster with whatever eido from the same element you get without caring if its summon effect is good or not.

Light and Dark have no elemental weakness and already get an extra 3% base elemental damage bonus. -20% elemental damage or limited choice of eidolons is a fair price to pay for that added versatility.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Negative.


No update is necessary. The accessory enhance materials yield equivalent XP to a regular accessory of the same rank with the same-element bonus (1.5x) on everything except Mirage element accessories (source). Use the bonus field in my calculator to incorporate this bonus.

Wait... so a level 1 R fodder gives only the same amount of exp as a level 1 rare (of the same element)? That sounds... utterly pointless?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Light and Dark have no elemental weakness and already get an extra 3% base elemental damage bonus. -20% elemental damage or limited choice of eidolons is a fair price to pay for that added versatility.

On a side note, 3% Elemental Atk isn't much. Meanwhile, Fire/Water/Wind/Thunder get 6% total from damage from Union Guardians... if it's set right.

Still, having no elemental weakness when played by the player is a pretty big boon by itself.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Wait... so a level 1 R fodder gives only the same amount of exp as a level 1 rare (of the same element)? That sounds... utterly pointless?

The SRs would be helpful if you can't clear Accessory Quest Rank 4 (or just can't be bothered to run it).

Wait... Aren't they weak against each other? (light and dark) o.O