Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Yukichi

Item drop eidos and the snatch ability increase the amount of bronze and silver chests only. Stars are in gold chests, so their drop rate won't increase. The eidos are better suited for lower level dailies and other quests where the sought items are in bronze and silver chests.

During advent events, only N, bronze and silver mats will increase. I've tested using a MLB anzu with a support sleipnir, anzu or vlad, D'Art with snatch 2nd and Mammon for 3 events, casting snatch on every enemy in rounds 1 and 2, and using all 3 snatches twice on the boss. In the end, the increase was 5-7%. It saves a few battles when the rewards you want require a majority of non-gold mats. Reduced elemental boost from the eidos and reducing damage in order to cast snatch often offsets time saving, so It's best to use them in a way that doesn't slow you down too much.

Not sure if this is correct but in this video he state that Item drop% also increase the gold chest rate in sp quest and have a good amount of sample.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQorzj__DAk
Also the snatch icoin is platium chest so is will be quite sarcastic if it only increase the amount of bronze and silver chests. Maybe the amount of gold chest is already too lower than the other 2 so it'll be hardly to noticed.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I'm pretty much guaranteed 4 golds per fight. No idea what normally drops though, since this has been my farming setup for ages now. I have no idea what normal is.

Not sure if this data is obsolete, but one of the tabs of Sanahtlig's Kamihime Project Toolbox has advent drops data, and he has 3.71 gold chests per run on average for ultimate, so if you consistently get 4 or more, that is definitely above average. I only track how many SSR mats I get, not the gold chests themselves, and for the last advent, I got a little above 2 per run with no drop rates up whatsoever, which is roughly consistent with Sanahtlig's 2.56, so I think the data is still good.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not sure if this data is obsolete, but one of the tabs of Sanahtlig's Kamihime Project Toolbox has advent drops data, and he has 3.71 gold chests per run on average for ultimate, so if you consistently get 4 or more, that is definitely above average. I only track how many SSR mats I get, not the gold chests themselves, and for the last advent, I got a little above 2 per run with no drop rates up whatsoever, which is roughly consistent with Sanahtlig's 2.56, so I think the data is still good.

Yeah, I don't bother counting the SSR mats. I just farm until I don't need to farm any more. No idea how many of those are actual mats and how much are SR fodder.

Originally Posted by Superbia

When does shiva get her awakening?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

too soon for u think about that
Right now awakening order would be

Marduk > Raphael > Cu Chulainn > Shiva

Need someone confirm date tho

Shiva should gain her awakening in August if it matches the jp side

Originally Posted by nut

Not sure if this is correct but in this video he state that Item drop% also increase the gold chest rate in sp quest and have a good amount of sample.

Also the snatch icoin is platium chest so is will be quite sarcastic if it only increase the amount of bronze and silver chests. Maybe the amount of gold chest is already too lower than the other 2 so it'll be hardly to noticed.

The stats show tier 3 and tier 4 stones but omit tier 3 runes and fangs which are also contained in gold chests. They would thus compare the amount of stones obtained from gold chests rather than the total amount of gold chests.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Yeah, I don't bother counting the SSR mats. I just farm until I don't need to farm any more. No idea how many of those are actual mats and how much are SR fodder.

Based on 400 to 500 battles from 5 advents, the current advent material drop rate is 6.00 N mats, 9.50 bronze mats, 4.25 silver mats and 2.50 gold mats

Originally Posted by Yukichi

The stats show tier 3 and tier 4 stones but omit tier 3 runes and fangs which are also contained in gold chests. They would thus compare the amount of stones obtained from gold chests rather than the total amount of gold chests.

But are you sure that the item drop rate % only increase the drop chance of silver and bronze chests?

Thinking back on it, it's more of an impression in regards to SP Quests. I remember using drop rate up abilities and eidos for them a while back and stopping because there were less tier 4 stone (stars) drops. Further analysis would be needed to confirm it.

Man...I wasted 6k jewels out of my savings for the next summer banner when the jewel gacha was light-boosted in a pathetic hope for Managarmr, SSRtemis, or something...and now here comes Athena, whom my dick is urging me to spend my last 3k on. But...summer...must resist...!
How is Athena? I think I've heard that Lugh is the next light I should try to get, but I'm curious.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Typically, the order for those 5 is Gaia > Brahma > Acala = Ares > Ea. It depends on your team and priorities how you want to shift those order around. Although with thunder tower on the horizon, I don't think you should discount Gaia completely.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Just for the record, I agree. I think I'd rather go with Ares > Acala, but fair enough.

It should be noted that Gaia turns from "my job is to DIE for the team" to "haha nobody can touch me or my team!" from Awakening. Brahma is unreliable, but in theory can deliver 4-6x damage for 3 turns after burst. Basically turning her into a walking team just by herself. This only applies when she is at full HP, which is where the unreliability comes in.

As I said, Gaia is my only Wind SSR, and I only got her on the second-most-recent Miracle Ticket (a vain effort to save my Winds). I haven't invested much effort into my weapon grid for them either, so my Winds are pretty much trash right now. I doubt Awakening Gaia would be worth it.
My Fires are pretty decent though, I think I only really need Svarog and Amon to have a good team.
My Waters would also probably be good if I were to grab two more SSRs as well.
My Lightnings have Mammon, Brahma, and Halloween Michael. Dunno what I need for them, but probably more than my other teams.
So I'm guessing the Fire Awakens would be higher priority? I really don't know. Maybe I should just hang onto my eyes.

Originally Posted by Argo

Man...I wasted 6k jewels out of my savings for the next summer banner when the jewel gacha was light-boosted in a pathetic hope for Managarmr, SSRtemis, or something...and now here comes Athena, whom my dick is urging me to spend my last 3k on. But...summer...must resist...!
How is Athena? I think I've heard that Lugh is the next light I should try to get, but I'm curious.





As I said, Gaia is my only Wind SSR, and I only got her on the second-most-recent Miracle Ticket (a vain effort to save my Winds). I haven't invested much effort into my weapon grid for them either, so my Winds are pretty much trash right now. I doubt Awakening Gaia would be worth it.
My Fires are pretty decent though, I think I only really need Svarog and Amon to have a good team.
My Waters would also probably be good if I were to grab two more SSRs as well.
My Lightnings have Mammon, Brahma, and Halloween Michael. Dunno what I need for them, but probably more than my other teams.
So I'm guessing the Fire Awakens would be higher priority? I really don't know. Maybe I should just hang onto my eyes.

She works really well in a Lance team (she drops a lance also- assault/elaborate). Her first ability is a C-frame ATK down 20% 7T cooldown, her second ability gives her a free attack and up to +20Burst Generation 7T cooldown, and her third ability refreshes her second ability for the cost of 15% of health and can be once per turn. Her passive is +100% healing.

She's quite literally a burst machine, but needs someone like Sol to keep her moving. But between her, Tish, and Michael that's almost every Hime a lancer, with lance drops meaning that it's really straight forward to aim for a phantom lance grid for endgame content there.


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

She works really well in a Lance team (she drops a lance also- assault/elaborate). Her first ability is a C-frame ATK down 20% 7T cooldown, her second ability gives her a free attack and up to +20Burst Generation 7T cooldown, and her third ability refreshes her second ability for the cost of 15% of health and can be once per turn. Her passive is +100% healing.

She's quite literally a burst machine, but needs someone like Sol to keep her moving. But between her, Tish, and Michael that's almost every Hime a lancer, with lance drops meaning that it's really straight forward to aim for a phantom lance grid for endgame content there.


Dejnov.

So a team of Tish, Michael, Sol, and Athena would be pretty solid? Now it's even more tempting... Who would be dropped for Lugh, if anyone?
Even so, they'll both be on future banners and will always be in the pool, whereas summers won't. How long until the next summer banner, anyway? That might decide whether or not I use my jewels now and just start building up again.

Originally Posted by Argo

-- so my Winds are pretty much trash right now. I doubt Awakening Gaia would be worth it. --

Doesn't matter. The Awakening priority doesn't change. Remember, not all Awakenings are equal - for some Hime, Awakening does very little and for some, it completely changes them.

You can choose to ignore Gaia for now of course, but the objective priority doesn't change.

Originally Posted by Argo

-- How long until the next summer banner, anyway? --

The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming SSRs. There doesn't seem to be limited editions for months, though they might decide to re-run previous limiteds.

And reminder that you shouldn't expect to find anything in Nutaku's Jewel gachas. The rate up is a lie. And nowadays the banners are only up for a couple of days before they swap to some old Hime campaigns, so you can't even farm the event for extra Jewels.