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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Oh, yea, it's about the gacha deciding what you have in the end. But when it comes to talking about 'this element is weak/strong', I'm assuming it's in the context of simply what's currently available. Otherwise I don't know how the question/topic makes any sense.
    It's a new user. They don't necessarily understand the game well enough to ask the right questions. A paying user interested in a Miracle ticket needs to decide on an element. A free user has to play with the cards they're dealt, and therefore the question of element is less relevant: there's no decision point to pause at. In this case, the user started with Sol, so the question of element is even less relevant than usual. We could advise the user to reroll for something else, but that's also besides the point, as Sol is pretty good regardless of whether Light is strong or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Oh, yea, it's about the gacha deciding what you have in the end. But when it comes to talking about 'this element is weak/strong', I'm assuming it's in the context of simply what's currently available. Otherwise I don't know how the question/topic makes any sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    It's a new user. They don't necessarily understand the game well enough to ask the right questions. A paying user interested in a Miracle ticket needs to decide on an element. A free user has to play with the cards they're dealt, and therefore the question of element is less relevant: there's no decision point to pause at. In this case, the user started with Sol, so the question of element is even less relevant than usual. We could advise the user to reroll for something else, but that's also besides the point, as Sol is pretty good regardless of whether Light is strong or not.
    Hopefully, I didn't create any type of bad discussion. It wasn't my intention at all. I didn't play enough to know if I want to invest money on the game. And as such, I don't have much choice. The only non rare, non light kamihime I have are Tsukuyome and Astraea. So, it is not like I can make a team of other element. I was asking more in regards of the potential of the element in general.

    I liked the answer of the unregistered user a lot, because it was clear, and showed me paths I could take to make the team better in case I ever decide to invest into the game or if I get lucky.

    I'm glad you thought about my position of a new player, though. Indeed, I don't have a deep knowledge of the game and might ask dumb questions or questions that won't net me the answers I'm looking for.

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    Sol, Diana, Artemis, and an arbitrary Light SR likely won't be enough to get you through the hardest content in the game (currently Accessory Quest Rank 4, Light in your case). But by the time you get to that point, you'll likely have another SSR. The next SSR you get from Gatcha is going to be a fork in the road for you: whether to stick with Light or to work on a different element with Sol as sub and make it even better than your Light team. Likewise, you'd have to think for a while about how to spend a Miracle ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    Sol, Diana, Artemis, and an arbitrary Light SR likely won't be enough to get you through the hardest content in the game (currently Accessory Quest Rank 4, Light in your case). But by the time you get to that point, you'll likely have another SSR. The next SSR you get from Gatcha is going to be a fork in the road for you: whether to stick with Light or to work on a different element with Sol as sub and make it even better than your Light team. Likewise, you'd have to think for a while about how to spend a Miracle ticket.
    That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

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    how do the crucible of combat events work? I've never been online during one, so I have no idea what to do or how to obtain units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    how do the crucible of combat events work? I've never been online during one, so I have no idea what to do or how to obtain units.
    Union events are miserable if you're not in a good Union.

    If you're in a good Union, everyone works together to spend AP on farming Grails from Lilims (I'd say only farm Standard, it's roughly the same amount of Grails per AP for a fraction of the effort). This gets every 400 points to spend daily on buffs - usually double damage and double HP plus two other stats.

    BP is spent to farm the Demons, who start off very weak, but level up as they get killed. Without Grail buffs, you won't get far. Without getting far, each Demon will yield so little PP that you won't get proper rewards.

    Since you haven't been online during one, you're either a relatively inactive player or a new player. Either way, your chances of being in a good Union is slim. That means your experience will be... far from a pleasant one.

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    Hi guys. Just realized about this tweet from nutaku:

    Reward Exchange of the raid Fortress of Coming Light will be available in the event page until the 20:00 Jan.13th [PST].
    Don't forget to drawn your gacha and receive your rewards!
    But the event page is gone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Union events are miserable if you're not in a good Union.

    If you're in a good Union, everyone works together to spend AP on farming Grails from Lilims (I'd say only farm Standard, it's roughly the same amount of Grails per AP for a fraction of the effort). This gets every 400 points to spend daily on buffs - usually double damage and double HP plus two other stats.
    I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone address the fact that this piece of advice is garbage, and a lie.

    Standard Lilim Costs 15AP
    Expert Lilim Costs 25AP

    Equal AP point is 75AP, which is 3 Expert and 5 Standard.

    Standard has dropped between 1-3 Grails from what I have run. Expert has dropped 4-5 on every run I have done.

    So when you do the math, Standard drops between 5-15, and Expert 12-15 for the same amount of AP. You have a much better average in Expert, making it the better one to run.

    If AP weren't an issue (IE you are using HEs like crazy, or have unlimited AP) and your limiting factor was time, then standard would be the way to go, because it can be completed faster and therefore your GPM (Grails per Minute) would be higher.

    Anyways...It always bugs me to see misinformation being thrown around as fact. Crunch the numbers and you can see Expert is better. However, if you're not strong enough for expert, then by all means run standard until you are.

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