Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Is Tyr any good? I finally pulled a SSR Kami, but I wanna know if I should invest as much as I can in her.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is Tyr any good? I finally pulled a SSR Kami, but I wanna know if I should invest as much as I can in her.

At first I would recommend you to read Sanahtling's guide. --> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.rixe84gs0hcx"]https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.rixe84gs0hcx

If you are rerolling then reroll until you get Sol, Amaterasu, Gaia, 2 SSR Kamihime from same element or 100% attack eideleon and then invest as much as you can/want!
Raiko is better then Tyr because she gets a -15% Attack A-Frame and in a Thunder Team you need Sol because we don't have a SSR Thunder healer at the moment.

Originally Posted by Sora

At first I would recommend you to read Sanahtling's guide. --> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.rixe84gs0hcx"]https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.rixe84gs0hcx

If you are rerolling then reroll until you get Sol, Amaterasu, Gaia, 2 SSR Kamihime from same element or 100% attack eideleon and then invest as much as you can/want!
Raiko is better then Tyr because she gets a -15% Attack A-Frame and in a Thunder Team you need Sol because we don't have a SSR Thunder healer at the moment.

Thanks for the advice, but I pulled her on my only account that I've used since the start of the game. Still, thanks for replying.

Originally Posted by Sora

and in a Thunder Team you need Sol because we don't have a SSR Thunder healer at the moment.

If you're new like that person is, then yea you'd probably need healing because your dmg is low to begin with. For ppl with grids, that's not really true. At least not with the content currently out in the game, unless you're going in without ele adv or something (which is then more on you rather than a fault of the element). Thunder can very easily clear stuff like water acc r4s and event ragnas without bringing in other healers like Sol, especially since some of them already have self-heals. With the current content in the game, you can pretty much nuke your opposing element dead long before they kill you at any rate. Just needs a decent grid.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

unless you're going in without ele adv or something (which is then more on you rather than a fault of the element).

You're going to have to explain how this would be the optimal route (least time/money investment) for a typical player. I've yet to see a good argument for it, especially if you only have SSRs for 1 or 2 elements.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

You're going to have to explain how this would be the optimal route (least time/money investment) for a typical player. I've yet to see a good argument for it, especially if you only have SSRs for 1 or 2 elements.

I can complete the water r4 accs with a SR-only party with my Thunder grid now. And my grids have no p2w in them. Of course, new or casual players won't get to grids like that. That is why I made the distinction in my post between players with the right grids and players without them.

Your question is more akin to "how can I be super lazy and still get everything I want?" The plain & simple answer is you can't. Unless you put in the work.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

I can complete the water r4 accs with a SR-only party with my Thunder grid now. And my grids have no p2w in them. Of course, new or casual players won't get to grids like that. That is why I made the distinction in my post between players with the right grids and players without them.
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But why do this when you can put in similar effort and make a team that can clear 5/6 elements instead of just one?

Your question is more akin to "how can I be super lazy and still get everything I want?"

No, it's not. It's about making the best use of limited resources, including time. Just because a strategy works doesn't mean it's optimal.

Let me rephrase the question. Under what circumstances is it better to invest equally in teams for all 6 elements vs. investing primarily in one? And under what circumstances is it worse? In what timeframes?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

But why do this when you can put in similar effort and make a team that can clear 5/6 elements instead of just one?

You do it because it lets you kill all the matching elements faster and easier. A person that has maxed grids in several elements will always have an easier time clearing content, even on AAB for most if not all of it, as opposed to someone who only maxes 1 grid. For Union Events, those with the maxed appropriate grids for the elements will always do better/more than those without. Same for any content really.

While currently it doesn't matter besides just for completions sake since the current content in the game is easy enough and there's no competitive aspect, when rankings in Union Events come and content like Guild Order Quests, and Tower Events come, we'll see if those that were too lazy to work on their other grids besides their main one will still be able to keep up while claiming to still only use a mono-element.

Also out of curiosity, currently if someone isn't exclusively a fire main grid user for example, how well is that person doing right now against the disaster wind ragna? I'd actually be really interested to see a video or screenshot or something of anyone solo'ing the disaster ragna with an off-element team/grid. Would definitely pique my curiosity. But sure since it's a raid, one can always request help. But that means one needs help to begin with. And in the end, when players are using 2 grids of equal strength (let's say both are maxed grids) the ones using fire against this current wind ragna, or w/e has ele adv over what they face will always out damage the ones using off-element. Thus they will get the MVPs. Thus they get more mats, 5 frags instead of 2 for example. Thus they can farm w/e it is that they farm faster, like soul weapons. Easier. More efficiently.

^ I guess that's essentially what separates the thinking of single grid specialists from ones who max all grids. It's a different mindset. One is a casual approach that only seeks to be able to clear content, and goal met, period. There are no aspirations for min-max'ing, competing with others, or caring if they're slower at killing said content than others. Whereas the latter mindset takes all that into account and plans for future content also being harder than current content. I'd bet the majority of the game's population is definitely casual (probably over 90%), so most of them will never get to those latter stages anyway. Though it'd actually be really sad and funny at the same time, if there are dedicated players out there that actually got swayed by those that preach the lazy path, so they skipped all the element wpns that's not their main ele from events, only to find out in the end that they're unable to clear stuff like GO or Tower content. In the end it just comes down to efficiency. The ones who max all their grids will generally be able to kill content faster and more efficiently than those who only max one, and they won't have to wonder if they could have cleared such and such if they hadn't skipped all the event wpns for this and that.

But you do you. And I'll do me. And if you try to convince me now that a mono-element grid user will somehow become equally as strong/efficient as an all-element grid user come end game, don't bother because then I'll definitely know you're off your rocker.

This is a gacha game, you never know what you'll get. So the most optimal route would be to level every element and get everything valuable event related. There are plenty of examples throughout the forum of people asking for help with their so called main teams only to find out their rosters contains units that would make a better team of another element and those people posting them drawing a SSR not of their main element.

There's also fact that the strengthening curve exists, as in it becomes much slower to get stronger the further you get into leveling your team's grid. Any high rank player can tell you how steep this curve is while trying to break that 50k power for a single element. Because of this curve, the amount of time and effort one could put into getting a single team to 50k atk, another player could probably make 6 different element teams of 35~40k.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

I can complete the water r4 accs with a SR-only party with my Thunder grid now. And my grids have no p2w in them. Of course, new or casual players won't get to grids like that. That is why I made the distinction in my post between players with the right grids and players without them.

Your question is more akin to "how can I be super lazy and still get everything I want?" The plain & simple answer is you can't. Unless you put in the work.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

I can complete the water r4 accs with a SR-only party with my Thunder grid now. And my grids have no p2w in them. Of course, new or casual players won't get to grids like that. That is why I made the distinction in my post between players with the right grids and players without them.

Your question is more akin to "how can I be super lazy and still get everything I want?" The plain & simple answer is you can't. Unless you put in the work.

Just ignore them, if you are an old player and you are still focusing on 1 single element instead of already branching to others, then that means they will fail miserably in AQ5,upcoming ragnas and GO (im not even mentioning tower) meanwhile people who maxed 1 grid AND moved onto others instead of being lazy with the other 5 will clear content just fine, the final goal is to have a maxed grid for every element cause elemental adv is strong af (and basically a must) in future hard content.