Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

As a practice is the only criteria of truth, i made party of Mordred (SS), Hastur, Chronos, Zephyrus, Osiris and tried to check how all this things are working. I used water disaster raids as test subjects to prevent elemental advantage factor. Osiris and Zephyrus are both BL3.
Damage was for example Zephyrus 6.5-6.8k Osiris 5-5.4k
Burst - 16+k Zephyrus 24k Osiris
This means that with my weapons/eidolons damage difference is insignificant. Sure, with 100+% assault and Hraesvelgr the difference will be much more, so there should be no sence to use off-element himes somedays.
And i was wrong, Cronos debuff was realy b-type, this means i had second debuff from other source. This makes her less usefull, but she still deals nice damage. I will try setup with Zephyrus instead of Osiris for several days, maybe it will be batter. Caspiel is an option too, but she's only lvl20 so i will up her in reserve and use instead of Chronos to have 50% attack debuff.

Don't need Hraesvelgr to make on-element crush off-element in damage. How familiar are you with the damage formulae?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

As a practice is the only criteria of truth, i made party of Mordred (SS), Hastur, Chronos, Zephyrus, Osiris and tried to check how all this things are working. I used water disaster raids as test subjects to prevent elemental advantage factor. Osiris and Zephyrus are both BL3.
Damage was for example Zephyrus 6.5-6.8k Osiris 5-5.4k
Burst - 16+k Zephyrus 24k Osiris
This means that with my weapons/eidolons damage difference is insignificant. Sure, with 100+% assault and Hraesvelgr the difference will be much more, so there should be no sence to use off-element himes somedays.

Your weapon damage isn't insignificant. The stronger your weapons, the stronger effect your assault will increase your overall damage for the specific element.

Practice isn't the only method, doing the math works just fine. But if you want another practical example. Used my wind team with 2 Icarus on a water disaster with SSR Satan and no debuffs. My Satan hits 4k and Zeph hit 10k.

Your burst damage doesn't really mean much when the amount of damage you'd do with regular attacks would already make up for the amount of turns needed to even burst in the first place.

Getting 10 SR weapons to sLv10 (80% assault) and using 2 Icarus will more than triple your base damage on neutral enemies and quadruple it on elemental weakness. This is plenty achievable by anyone.

The only time I would ever suggest using Osiris in a off element party is if you truly need the heals, which you most likely won't if you're running with Joan (regen), Ithaqua (decent party heal) and Zephyrus (weak party heal). Even then that might be too much heals.

Did this game just become a WHOLE lot better this week?

Note: I am a casual but passionate player. I never rerolled and if I read all the comments then I don't feel to be missing out on anything. There's also something to be said for making due with what you have and trying to make the best of it: getting the best out of what you have right now. I maintain 6 teams, one for each elements, and so far it's holding out quite good. Some teams are more powerful than others, but in the end my kamihime's get the job done.

Back to my vent...

My god they changed the gem gacha and I honestly think Kamihime became legendary. I spend 1k gems and I got 2 half potions. This allowed me to play another full cycle and during that I earned 1k gems again. Enough for another gacha. Theoretically this means that with the right luck (unlikely) I could play forever

I don't like them hiding the gems like they did though. It almost seems as if gems don't mean anything which I think is a big mistake. Not to mention that those coins get reset after 3 months. Not too appealing if you ask me. But other than that... I'm having some serious fun here.

I believe Slashey mentioned that at 84 AP you could sustain gems on a Gem quest (happen once a day?).

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

I believe Slashey mentioned that at 84 AP you could sustain gems on a Gem quest (happen once a day?).

Slash_L_ey.

And yes, my maths were done really fast, but 84AP should allow your HEs to regen enough AP for an infinite loop.
As long as you keep rolling 100k Gems every day and keep spending your HEs on Gem Quests whenever possible, you should never run out of HEs or Gems.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Slash_L_ey.

And yes, my maths were done really fast, but 84AP should allow your HEs to regen enough AP for an infinite loop.
As long as you keep rolling 100k Gems every day and keep spending your HEs on Gem Quests whenever possible, you should never run out of HEs or Gems.

Do gem quests on Sunday yield more gems or the random ones that pop up throughout each day?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't need Hraesvelgr to make on-element crush off-element in damage. How familiar are you with the damage formulae?

As i understand the math, attack_total=(base_unit_attack+modifier*(weapons_a ttack+eidolons_attack))*(1+element_modifier)*(1+un it_modifier). And then buffs/debuffs are applied. Something like that.
And i didn't say that difference in weapon damage is insignificant, , i said that in my current setup difference between zephyrus and Osiris is not that big yet, actualy they both are not the top-tier damagers, but i understand that every assault level or for example lbmax Kyoko will make this difference greater and sometimes will be so great, that i will send Osiris to reserve. I will try setup with Zephyrus today once more. It will be better for example at current event because it's a thunder one.

The only time I would ever suggest using Osiris in a off element party is if you truly need the heals, which you most likely won't if you're running with Joan (regen), Ithaqua (decent party heal) and Zephyrus (weak party heal). Even then that might be too much heals.

No Joan, just Mordred, Cassy and D'arty. Joan is next, but no soul point for her now. As i see my party's progress, best heal modifier is to kill everybody faster then heal is needed. I'm working on it, but not as fast as i want.

w.ww.youtu.be/5n1Rexv6gOw?t=210
Can someone explain me how the fuck his "gold" gatcha changed suddenly into "rainbow" ?!
And seriously this guy has over 100k jewels. Wtf?

I didn't saw him pull a single gold lightning (well, except on guaranteed SSR) despite that many pulls. I guess DMM has made gacha more "exciting" by making SSRs surprise-evolve from other pulls?

The amount of Jewels we're about to get is going to explode soon, like 3k per every event. Still, 100k probably means he's been saving up for several months. Or he could've just whaled whenever he wanted to spend premium currency, getting extra Jewels while not spending any. Hard to tell.