Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Love Live will likely never have a collaboration event with an adult browser game.

This is going straight into my signature.

Huh, at some point in the last month the wiki's been updated to include formulae for the vigoras/vigorous weapon skill*. It's got exponents and square root involved, so no, not gonna calculate in my head. At least the table has the relevant bonuses for medium skill lvl 20.
Also, with the introduction of the special attack frame, vigorous has been folded into that. Tentatively, the ousei (technically also vigorous...) type buff is also listed under special attack. I don't think many kamihime have that type of buff yet, but the main example is awakened Brahma's burst effect.

*if vigorous is new to you, just think more bonus damage the higher % of HP you have left. If you really don't like Pride, then this is the thing for you.

(ok, yea, square root is just a specific exponent)

Small: (8 + skill_lvl * 0.2) ^ (HP / Max_HP) - (8 + skill_lvl *0.2) ^ 0.5
Medium: (12 + skill_lvl * 0.2) ^ (HP / Max_HP) - (12 + skill_lvl *0.2) ^ 0.5
Large: (16 + skill_lvl * 0.2) ^ (HP / Max_HP) - (16 + skill_lvl *0.2) ^ 0.5

The short of it is, the bonus comes out to 0 when your HP is at half or less.
And it degrades fast. According to the table, medium lv 20 starts at +12% at 100% HP, but hits +4% at 75% HP.

If that's Assault, then it's nothing great outside of Sol builds. And Burst Hour, I guess.

But if that's Special Attack as I understand what you said, then that's bonkers crazy. To the extent that running Sol(/Seto) in every team might become a damage boost if you have a couple of those things.

Is it just me, or MVP and Vice MVP no longer receive the Gem Idea Regalia (big one)?

Also, does sometimes it feel like people mess with the game data somehow? Like, I use a makeshift team for level-up, go full auto, come back and see myself as vice MVP even though I did not contribute 1/15 of the damage at all.
...Makes me feel like some people somehow miraculously bring down the Wind Catastrophe, but actually hit less, so their damage wasn't counted by the server.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it just me, or MVP and Vice MVP no longer receive the Gem Idea Regalia (big one)?

MvPs don't get direct Regalias. Host does.

And AB is the best way to get MvP - assuming that the boss dies, of course.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it just me, or MVP and Vice MVP no longer receive the Gem Idea Regalia (big one)?

Also, does sometimes it feel like people mess with the game data somehow? Like, I use a makeshift team for level-up, go full auto, come back and see myself as vice MVP even though I did not contribute 1/15 of the damage at all.
...Makes me feel like some people somehow miraculously bring down the Wind Catastrophe, but actually hit less, so their damage wasn't counted by the server.

you can only get the gem idea regalia from a battle you've started yourself, even if you join another battle and do literally ALL of the damage, you will most likely just get SR mats and more of the fragments. it's been like that since the wind one.
and if you do 0 damage in your own battle, you'll still get the gem regalia.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it just me, or MVP and Vice MVP no longer receive the Gem Idea Regalia (big one)?

MVP and Vice have never received Regalias, only 5 and 3 fragments respectively.

Originally Posted by Slashley

And AB is the best way to get MvP - assuming that the boss dies, of course.

Manual.

Originally Posted by Ikki

Manual.

If by "manual" you mean "click Battle the moment it is available over and over again", then yes. That's the same as AB, after all. Or if you meant, "click Battle the moment it is available, refresh immediately over and over again" and yes. You're right. That's like the manual version of AB

The problem with raids is, you're extremely pressed for time. You're in a race against everyone else in the raid, and lag will become a factor. The best damage output per "turn" (and using skills takes one "turn") is by far normal attacks - because they build your burst meter. The first person to reach full burst wins, as such, ANY skill usage is a waste of your time and will just cause you to lose MvPs.

Of course, this rapid fire attacking will lower your survival ability by a massive amount. If you're not down to 4 or less characters by time the raid dies, you're doing it wrong. And that's what I meant by the "assuming that the boss dies" part, since if everyone in the raid does the same and wipes, then it was all moot. That's the fun of raid fights, I find. Estimate how strong the raid overall is, when can you afford to go AB and when can you not.


Oh, and by the way. The one single exception to this "NO SKILLS" rule is Raiko's Zeal. For the loss of one turn and its of attacks, you gain three turns of burst. This is OP as fuck because, yet again, the first person to full burst wins. To be noted is that Fire Beelz excels at this far better than Raiko does, since her Zeal also gives Berserk. Thus, you pay one turn in advance, gain it back in two turns, gain an extra turn in four turns, and have a GUARANTEED full burst on turn 6. There is absolutely no beating that one bit. Expect to lose every single MvP in every single non-Water raid fight to Fire Beelz users once she is out.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it just me, or MVP and Vice MVP no longer receive the Gem Idea Regalia (big one)?

Only the host gets the regalia, MVP gets 5 fragments, 2nd gets 3 and the rest get 2 fragments.