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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    You had 43k total power by this point. That's hardly a new player level, by which I mean the time when AQ4 starts being doable.
    Which brings us here..
    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    (not to mention new guys won't deal with AQ4, anyway).

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Although your video doesn't comment on how high your Grid is. But based on your HP, around ~30% Defenders from two Defender SSRs, I can assume that it was quite high (or did you upgrade Defenders first?).

    Also, you had Sol when AQ was released and you didn't exploit -70% Atk?
    Heck if I remember... Most things were probably around SL10, I believe, some maybe more as a preparation for Nicholas raid, which I decided to farm back then.
    As for the 70% atk debuff... I don't like using such cheesings in my vids. That thing was only alive for a month, anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Not at all - many mobs from wave1 are really useful to BP. Like the second mob in Wind if you have enough damage to kill two mobs in four turns. A new player probably doesn't, so it's probably better off to not use (as this means that you get less "free turns" when the mobs are just buffing up on a buff that doesn't stack).

    In Wind wave2 Wind, Joan can either damage cut the first, small AoE or you can wait to cut the buffed AoE - but not both. And you'll be in trouble if you're not about to kill the mid-boss when the third one is approaching. Again, BP giving you WAY more turns until this soft-limit comes up.

    Overall, I'd rather have BP in all AQ content than Joan's damage cut. There are certainly ones where it isn't particularly useful (like Dark wave1 for example), but these ones don't gain anything from damage cut either.
    That sounds great & all, but where exactly do you find himes to cover for other debuffs as a new guy? Not to mention, Sniper Shot is probably the best idea at the very least against the mobs, since it's AoE, as opposed to any other hero debuff and actually covers 2 debuff (atk/def).

    I'm still wondering how we ended up discussing AQ4 stuff if we're talking about a new guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    I'm still wondering how we ended up discussing AQ4 stuff if we're talking about a new guy.
    A "new guy" with all but 2 souls.

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    Then why is 40k+ total power so unimaginable, I wonder.

    On a side note, this is getting unnecessarily long, like numerous discussions I've seen in this thread. Maybe it's just me not being used to forum discussion, tho.
    Last edited by nonsensei; 06-21-2018 at 12:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blubbergott View Post
    A "new guy" with all but 2 souls.
    It is possible, many people play the game very casually. Even if you've played the game from the start, if you've never maxed a single SSR and haven't bothered at all with the game mechanics, you're still quite... new.

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