Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Wrong. If your burst can cover def down, use that instead of wasting a slot for debuffer hime that does shit dmg. You want to maximize performance, your BiS options when building an end game team are always gonna be Fast Burst > Nukes > Mitigation > Debuff. If your weapon burst or support summon can cast Def down, use it. The less buttons you need to waste to achieve enough debuff the better.

Originally Posted by Bear

Wrong. If your burst can cover def down, use that instead of wasting a slot for debuffer hime that does shit dmg. You want to maximize performance, your BiS options when building an end game team are always gonna be Fast Burst > Nukes > Mitigation > Debuff. If your weapon burst or support summon can cast Def down, use it. The less buttons you need to waste to achieve enough debuff the better.

Having a hard time piecing together the complete picture of why that's the case (the team building priority), but here's how I understand it:

Debuff is the lowest priority given how many skills need to be used to set those up, and not to mention there's a lot of content out there that's so debuff unfriendly it's practically a waste of time to rely on those.

Mitigation to survive those overdrives if we can't knock them out of rage phase/ kill them fast enough.

Burst does more damage than nukes(?), but we probably can piece them together and say both are vital in stomping through enemies before they land a skill on you.

Which basically means if a debuff-centric hime doesn't do damage... don't include her in an end game team unless her mechanic literally breaks the content you're challenging harder than another hime you would've included?

Also, where do heals and orb reduction belong in this list?

Burst > Nuke because Nuke has CD. Burst depends on how fast you can get your entire team to burst, and if you're doing it right, you can burst as fast as if not faster than a Nuke's CD would tick. Obviously, by burst I mean FB.

Healing / Delay / Counter all goes to Mitigation.

Debuff is lowest priority because it is merely a necessity. Once you've achieved enough of it, there is no more room to grow. Long story short: Debuff = Low Ceiling. Raw Dmg Dealing abilities / buff = High Ceiling. You'd wanna increase that ceiling for your team as much as possible, this is why debuff has the least priority.

@Bear,

i have 3 Light SSR's right now. i also got 50k jewels which i plan on blowing it when the 100% light eido comes out / when Artemis comes out.

my question is: for my next mtix, would you suggest that i continue to pick up future light SSR himes or should i start building a dark team?

thanks

Originally Posted by Bear

Burst > Nuke because Nuke has CD. Burst depends on how fast you can get your entire team to burst, and if you're doing it right, you can burst as fast as if not faster than a Nuke's CD would tick. Obviously, by burst I mean FB.

Healing / Delay / Counter all goes to Mitigation.

Debuff is lowest priority because it is merely a necessity. Once you've achieved enough of it, there is no more room to grow. Long story short: Debuff = Low Ceiling. Raw Dmg Dealing abilities / buff = High Ceiling. You'd wanna increase that ceiling for your team as much as possible, this is why debuff has the least priority.

i think i get a bit of that at least... even without debuffng on enemies, i can still pull off a lot of damage with hime that have very strong damaging abilities cause they are just that, loads of damage that just capitalize more on buffs... (or teams like my fire one that have loads of buffing methods, both AoE and self buffing)

in fact, it's why i actually like pairing someone like bastet with nepthys cause of those buffs adding boost after boost on the damage she can toss out.


it makes sense anyway given that there's far more ways to increase damage and stats compared to lowering them.

Is there a list for gem quest hours somewhere? If not, i would be able to share some and i would be glad if ppl could complete it.

Originally Posted by Yolodesu

Is there a list for gem quest hours somewhere? If not, i would be able to share some and i would be glad if ppl could complete it.

Convert timezone accordingly.

I simply made a notepad in my desktop reminding me of the gem quest times in my own timezone.

Perfect. Ty mate!