Quote Originally Posted by Ikki View Post
On the other side, it amuses me that you still use sol on water when you already have almost all the water SSRs except nike/aphro, and mordred when you can just run shingen with chaos magic, its just, i cant find proper words.
Doing Ult Fire or Sunday AQ4 without Sol (or Aphrodite/SSR Nike) would be really unreliable though. In AQ4, a single Thunder wave2/3 can ruin your day because of their tremendous damage output. With Asherah, once she's past level 1, it might be doable because she can just enable the great "fuck you" of PF.

Ult Fire though...? I mean, I can solo it 99% of the time with Sol. I doubt that I could do that with no healer (note, both the SSRs I lack in Water are healers). Ult Fire really hurts if you give it a chance, but the extremely long Stun time means that Sol easily gets you back to full, effectively resetting the fight.