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Please refer to them as 100% or 140% since DMM has those too and it can get confusing for non members who are probably speaking here for the first time.
I refuse. Those who are here for the first time can just ask. Whether they are 100% (to 120%) or 120% (to 140%), they fulfill my definition of P2W: an unfair advantage you are not getting without paying ridiculous amounts.
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-- I have a few F2P friends who got lucky. 1 has a Rudra and 1 has a Hraes. --
Yes, two people. Out of how many again?

Now, do tell me how realistic it is that the rest of your friends are going to get P2W Eidolons if they play... let's say two more years?
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But you don't really need every single eido before you get dupes. So I couldn't quite understand the math there.
As I said - it is possible to get lucky, and that calculation was not particularly mathematical. It was simply a demonstration of just what kind of amounts of money you need to put into the game before SSR Eidolon Guaranteed gacha starts not being a scam.

The problem with statistics is, there is no absolute answer. That's because luck is a factor. I guess the closest you can get is finding the coin-flip breaking point of 1/21 happening for the third time in X amount of tries, then duplicate X by 200 bucks. That's the more realistic "get ONE 2-star gacha SSR Eidolon" amount, but that wasn't really the point. Since at that phase most of the Eidolons in the gacha are still useless to you. 8600 dollars is roughly in the area where the Guaranteed SSR Eidolon gacha starts having actual value instead of being a complete scam. If you want to run a more accurate calculation of the value, be my guest.

And yes, Kaisers are also the jackpots of SSR Eidolons - though not as much as the P2W Eidolons. I think they're also heavily weighted down though, but sadly, I have no data on that. Anyway, even if you do get a Kaiser or two, you won't have a ridiculous advantage over those that don't. It starts being a P2W level of advantage once you start having multiple LMBs, and let me tell you, 10k bucks isn't even a start for that! Even if you don't count their down-weight!