Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

I never said you are going to get them instantly. I just said money won't guarantee them and luck is a bigger factor and hence I disagree with the usage of that terminology. That was all I was trying to say

Also just to add, since you said not everyone would be lucky like me or the 2 friends of mine who got them from Premium Tickets or Jewels. Same logic would apply to you. You spent so much and still didn't get what you wanted. You were extremely unlucky and it's possible there's few few out there as unlucky as you. To make a generic term just out of 1 person's bad experience is unfair to others isn't it?

Think of how an F2P who just pulled them through luck would feel. As it is, they have lesser hime count and feel kind of overshadowed unless you grinded really really hard. They would be over the moon if they got a 100% Eido. And you calling them P2W implies they whaled for them? Since you're using it as a generic term?

Isn't that unfair and disrespectful?

Well for starters everyone has his own opinion, if they disagree with you Slashley its for a reason, ive never liked that p2w term on 100% eidos and theres a few reasons that can be explained by breaking down the past and present term p2w.

P2W in the past was referred to any game that had content exclusively for paying users, and that content couldnt be obtained without paying at all, this nowadays is kinda different and the p2w term is now referred to any "unfair" or "considerable advantage" you can get in a game by paying, let it be getting exclusive content which can't be obtained without $ OR stuff that makes your progression way faster, allowing you to skip unnecessary grind and improving your overall experience of a game.

Now understanding this term theres 2 options:

1- The p2w term on 100% eidos is dumb cause you can get them without paying a single $ and throwing tons of $ may as well not give you any at all cause thats gacha games in a nutshell (refer to hymptt which is the only guy on par with bam's stats on the server and has no 100% at all) -> this is based on the "exclusive content that cant be obtained without paying" part of the p2w term, cause you can get 100% eidos without any $.

2- The p2w term on 100% eidos exclusively is dumb cause everything in this game is basically p2w, so may as well call all the gacha eidos as p2w eidos and all the gacha khs as p2w khs -> this is referred to the "unfair and considerable advantage $ can give you to improve your overall experience of the game" part.

So knowing this, choose 1, you either stop calling p2w eidos for the first reason and we call them by their name, or we start calling everything that comes from the gacha p2w , your call.

Originally Posted by Ikki

content exclusively for paying users

but but but shadey how to score 10800 in tower without ascalon grid

Originally Posted by Bear

but but but shadey how to score 10800 in tower without ascalon grid

Any videos of someone beating the last floor within 4 turns? I figure that'll be amusing to watch.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

-- You were extremely unlucky --

Was I? For example, whaling 1k for Karin was a coinflip success chance back then. Is failing that really "extremely" lucky? And notice that 1k won't get you anywhere for bonus rate up SSR Hime anymore, and this keep getting worse every week.

Now then, imagine just how unlikely it is to get a P2W Eidolon, even with a rate up...
Is it possible? Yeah, it is. But that doesn't make it likely.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Isn't that unfair and disrespectful?

... wait. What? Really?

Let me get this straight. You are insulted that a random person on the internet is branding you as something you arbitrarily are deciding is a bad term. That's... okay. Yeah, sure.
Yes, that is extremely unfair and disrespectful. How dare you get a P2W Eidolon.

So... let me get this straight.

This entire chain happened simply because one person didn't like the term p2w on 100% eidolons.

... In the end what's the stinking difference? If the point is there, there's no need to do anything further. 100+% eidolon, interchangeable with p2w for some other people.

Whoever this unregistered user is... drop the damn argument please. You're getting offended for people who haven't even voiced their feeling of getting offended, and all it's creating is pointless argument.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

So... let me get this straight.

This entire chain happened simply because one person didn't like the term p2w on 100% eidolons.

... In the end what's the stinking difference? If the point is there, there's no need to do anything further. 100+% eidolon, interchangeable with p2w for some other people.

Whoever this unregistered user is... drop the damn argument please. You're getting offended for people who haven't even voiced their feeling of getting offended, and all it's creating is pointless argument.

I got a p2w eidolon ... without paying!! how is that even possible if they are p2w!!

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

So... let me get this straight.

This entire chain happened simply because one person didn't like the term p2w on 100% eidolons.

Not exactly, it started coz multiple people disliked it, but apparently of the usual group, so I was interested in other people's opinion on the matter coz I guessed the usual "exchange of thoughts" wouldn't resolve it like it barely ever did. I guess that wasn't a pleasant thing to have the forum occupied with (or just popcorn value to some).
Slashley never seems to accept our opinion - no matter how much we try to prove our point - on something that we disagree. But hey, that is vice-versa since we don't accept his opinion just as much. That may be due to us perceiving his thoughts silly, but that again probably holds true on his side. And hence, I thought I'd ask the rest of the people in here, but apparently to no avail.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

... In the end what's the stinking difference? If the point is there, there's no need to do anything further. 100+% eidolon, interchangeable with p2w for some other people.

The point is that this terminology gives a false impression on 100% eidos that they are exclusive for those throwing money at the game. I at the very least, wouldn't give a damn if he called them OP eidos, insert element here Belial, friend-material eidos, or whatever, but while I get what he's trying to deliver with calling them F2P, it gives the false impression, nevertheless. Again, in my opinion

Hi, noob here. Just want to ask, what do you guys normally do with the excess copies of SSR Weapons and Eidolons? Assuming you have already break-limit to the max, and you don't intend to have more than 1 copy of the max SSR.

I know for weapons, it can be used to level-up weapon skills. But no idea for Eidolons. Seems like a waste to just use them as enhancement materials.