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    It'll depend a lot on what hime you end up getting. The basic idea is that you want to get actual use out of the relic weapons you spend regalia working on. Don't just get something for the sake of getting it. Get a weapon with the intent to make use of what's notable about it.
    That said, Herc axe is usually a safe bet to invest in due to it being a likely choice in high power teams. Its burst effect being a strong defense debuff is desirable (well, Herc bow would have that too, but axe is the +elem one) and Hercules herself is great.
    And since Arthur can equip axes too, gotta wonder, would Arthur even use her own relic weapons over Herc's axe? You trade in Arthur's relic weapons' burst effect (self only +10/25/35% assault buff) and either (+30% element and reducing her nuke's cooldown from 6 to 5 turns) or (+HP and making her atk buff raise assault by another 20%) for Herc axe burst effect of -15/20/25% def debuff.
    (Not gonna lie, at first glance, Arthur relics' burst effect looks terrible next to Herc's)

    And you do need to get the relic weapon to 1* to actually get a burst effect. So that's 60 regalia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    It'll depend a lot on what hime you end up getting. The basic idea is that you want to get actual use out of the relic weapons you spend regalia working on. Don't just get something for the sake of getting it. Get a weapon with the intent to make use of what's notable about it.
    That said, Herc axe is usually a safe bet to invest in due to it being a likely choice in high power teams. Its burst effect being a strong defense debuff is desirable (well, Herc bow would have that too, but axe is the +elem one) and Hercules herself is great.
    And since Arthur can equip axes too, gotta wonder, would Arthur even use her own relic weapons over Herc's axe? You trade in Arthur's relic weapons' burst effect (self only +10/25/35% assault buff) and either (+30% element and reducing her nuke's cooldown from 6 to 5 turns) or (+HP and making her atk buff raise assault by another 20%) for Herc axe burst effect of -15/20/25% def debuff.
    (Not gonna lie, at first glance, Arthur relics' burst effect looks terrible next to Herc's)

    And you do need to get the relic weapon to 1* to actually get a burst effect. So that's 60 regalia.
    But def debuff on weapon is the same frame with Hraes right?

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    Same frame as Hraesvelgr would be, yes. Assuming you'll be relying on your Hraes instead of a friend's, then the comparison is 3* Herc axe debuff would be stronger and should be able to apply it before 10 turns.
    That said, also take into account what Bear just said.
    And of course, whether Arthur even is your long term choice hinges on what the rest of your team ends up looking like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Same frame as Hraesvelgr would be, yes. Assuming you'll be relying on your Hraes instead of a friend's, then the comparison is 3* Herc axe debuff would be stronger and should be able to apply it before 10 turns.
    That said, also take into account what Bear just said.
    And of course, whether Arthur even is your long term choice hinges on what the rest of your team ends up looking like.
    Thanks, then I'll wait until I get other soul and hime, at first I just think that at the point I get other soul like Herc or Shingen (which is 1000 SP and 1000 HSP, probably next fews month) I would be able to get enough regalia with the help of a temp weapon. And with my friend's Hraes always availabe when I need I'm not feel the need of Herc yet. I'll wait to see if I need Shingen's wp or a healer/defender soul weapon.

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    DMM dudes, just a curiosity question here.

    I dug up summer Cybele's moveset to look at for fun, and if I understand gtranslate and japanese correctly...

    her 3rd skill guarantees combo but decreases burst gauge increase per hit?

    And... her passive makes her normal attacks AoE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    DMM dudes, just a curiosity question here.

    I dug up summer Cybele's moveset to look at for fun, and if I understand gtranslate and japanese correctly...

    her 3rd skill guarantees combo but decreases burst gauge increase per hit?

    And... her passive makes her normal attacks AoE?
    Indeed. And from wiki informations this burst gauge gain decrease is ridicously high (1 burst gauge per attack), but it's considered debuff. Passive makes her hit all enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Indeed. And from wiki informations this burst gauge gain decrease is ridicously high (1 burst gauge per attack), but it's considered debuff. Passive makes her hit all enemies.
    I see...

    Then comes probably the question that might make her broken in certain contents(?):

    Say I have 3 enemies on the field and I get her to do a normal attack without the debuff. Will she gain 10 burst, or 30 burst from hitting all 3 enemies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nut View Post
    But def debuff on weapon is the same frame with Hraes right?
    Weapon shares its debuff/buff frame with Eidolon (AKA Summon frame), so yes, the best buff/debuff would overlap the other.
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