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  1. #5471

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    Could be just my luck, but I just drew Hraesvelgr.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laventale View Post
    SSR normally are 3% tho. I'm sure stronger SSR characters (like the unleashed ones or the P2W eidos) have lower odds.
    Yes, but SSRs are either Kamihime Weapons or Eidolons, so it's 1.5% for Hime and 1.5% Eidolon assuming equal chances for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yes, but SSRs are either Kamihime Weapons or Eidolons, so it's 1.5% for Hime and 1.5% Eidolon assuming equal chances for both.
    This. First the game rolls what you get, and then it rolls what you get from that bracket.

    That's the answer Sanathlig came up with when he went through how the gacha works at release, based on the draws of two spacewhales. 1.5% is an assumption since when this data was compiled, non-Hime SSR weapons were in the gacha. But Eidolons and Hime had basically the same chance, so we're assuming that they're now 50-50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    This. First the game rolls what you get, and then it rolls what you get from that bracket.

    That's the answer Sanathlig came up with when he went through how the gacha works at release, based on the draws of two spacewhales. 1.5% is an assumption since when this data was compiled, non-Hime SSR weapons were in the gacha. But Eidolons and Hime had basically the same chance, so we're assuming that they're now 50-50.
    explains why the specific character rates are actually quite low in a lot of games, cause quite a few (at least ALL nutaku games) use this formula... if all SSR Kami weapons have an even chance of getting pulled and there was 40 SSR... then that's 0.0375% chance of getting a specific one basically assuming those are the only SSR weapons you can get... with no rate ups, that 0.00375% chance would be practically 1 out of every 2,667 pulls to get someone specific... and those chances would only shrink as they add more characters.

    the best chance you actually had of getting anyone was the one (and ONLY) character exclusive gacha where Sol's weapon was the only SSR weapon you could pull. assuming eidolons was in there too, 1.5% rate for her. if not, 3% rate. So you should have seen her either every 33.5 pulls, or every 67 pulls.

    aside from the obvious miracle ticket, that's probably the very best gacha to do if you wanted her.... if they ever do another gacha like that again...
    Last edited by MagicSpice; 07-16-2018 at 03:38 PM.

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    That guaranteed Sol gacha was weird, since it shouldn't have happened until next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    I assume you won't be rushing everyday.

    Spend your natural regen BP on union demon experts. they have a decent seed return rate.

    Otherwise, gemcha or raid gacha when you're not hardcore farming (recommended you get MVP on most runs tho) can provide seeds too, as will raiding disasters/ catastrophes.
    Many top rank unions are likely spending a lot on certain days to focus expert and ultimate. I'll most likely will spend 400~500 seeds for this union event. It would not surprise me if top rank players probably spend 1k or more.

    Unless I missed them dropping, envy demon expert doesn't drop seeds. Gem gacha seed rates are no good, if anything they're just additional bonuses when getting R weapons. Lack of gems will become another issue if you're someone who misses most of the 30 minute gem quests.

    Raid event gacha seems to be the best source but as mentioned, we're getting an advent then another union event. There is no raid gacha to farm in-between the current union event and the next one. This seems like it'll be a reoccurring theme in the future, as in union then advent the another union.

    The quickest way I've managed to find is to buy seeds from the story exchange shop. You can buy 40 seeds per story area so you can get 280 seeds, resets each month. While it's likely not going to make up for the total used for those who spend a hefty amount, it should still help and seems like the most you can gain within a short amount of time.

    Of course, if you're someone who barely spends any seeds on union events, then it really doesn't even matter.

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    Envy expert demon can drop seeds, but the rate so far has been hovering between 1/3 and 1/2 for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    The quickest way I've managed to find is to buy seeds from the story exchange shop. You can buy 40 seeds per story area so you can get 280 seeds, resets each month. While it's likely not going to make up for the total used for those who spend a hefty amount, it should still help and seems like the most you can gain within a short amount of time.
    I should probably try that, the other thing that works (if you have enough HE) is doing raid events with only natural bp regen and HE during burst times, i got a lot of seeds during adramelech doing this, granted you wont do this if you dont have many HE but if you do its worth the shot.
    Shade on KH, fire main.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Envy expert demon can drop seeds, but the rate so far has been hovering between 1/3 and 1/2 for me.
    I only ran expert on day 1 and I couldn't remember if it actually dropped any or not. I haven't ran many experts afterward so I don't recall seeing any. I'd honestly rather just use regen BP on joining someones cata raid instead if it's not on a day the union is focusing on farming the event.

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    i tend to get a lot of expert kills (and lilim grails) in when it's not burst time..

    far as i remember, never seen a seed drop from those (but they do drop tier 2/3 crystals)

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