Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

If there were authors willing to do the necessary research, communicate clearly and succinctly, and rewrite the sections as needed every 3 months or so, I'd be willing to host their content. I'm skeptical that the necessary interest exists. Bear is already dissatisfied with the guide he wrote only 5 months ago. Describing optimal party composition at a given point in time requires far too much effort, given its short shelf-life, and generates too much controversy in this community. My current focus is on content with longer shelf-life; I consider the experiment with the Team-building Guide to be illustrative of the types of content I should probably avoid.

Thanks for replying. I maintained a World of Warcraft guide a few years ago so definitely agree and understand the effort required.

I found some experienced players like yourself having to relying similar questions from new players over and over again e.g. what hero / weapon for dark? And there are so much good information buried in this 600 pages thread..

Perhaps there is a better way to keep information up to date and easier to search/ digest without much additional effort?

Just food for thoughts : FAQ? One element per thread?

Honestly I've found many subscription MMOs easier to document and discuss than this game. The bar for entry is lower because everyone is playing the same version of the game and has access to more or less the same set of abilities and equipment. Also, the code and game mechanics aren't spaghetti. In this game you have DMM veterans and Japanese-language documentation discussing future content on one end, and English players on the other concerned with current content. You also have an English version that doesn't always mirror the Japanese version at the same point in time. The interface between the two versions is thus messy and contentious. The cashing system is messy and creates artificial disparities between players.

I don't have any ready solutions. Honestly, I think there's been much more interest in problem-finding than problem-solving. Might help if discussion was more purposeful, topic-driven, information-dense, and professional. But well, that's not why most people post here.

I do agree that this thread is a poor information repository. It is a great way to heap together content so only the most avid forum followers will ever see it and no one will be able to find it at a later date.

Sorry for the noob question, but how is Shingen supposed to be used during burst times? Do you activate Provisional Forest and hope to get your burst back to 100 before the buff ends?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sorry for the noob question, but how is Shingen supposed to be used during burst times? Do you activate Provisional Forest and hope to get your burst back to 100 before the buff ends?

PF doesn't have a timer, it lasts until you burst.

Originally Posted by Laventale

PF doesn't have a timer, it lasts until you burst.

It lasts 3 turns.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sorry for the noob question, but how is Shingen supposed to be used during burst times? Do you activate Provisional Forest and hope to get your burst back to 100 before the buff ends?

Without her spear, yes, it's rng without help from other hime abilities / summon actives. Otherwise, her spear increases her Abi1's burst gain from 20 to 35, which will guarantee PF within the next 2 turns.

Originally Posted by Bear

Without her spear, yes, it's rng without help from other hime abilities / summon actives. Otherwise, her spear increases her Abi1's burst gain from 20 to 35, which will guarantee PF within the next 2 turns.

Ah ok thanks! I went with her bow as a soul weapon instead, but just found out Osiris has a burst boost so I should be able to guarantee it within 2 turns.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ah ok thanks! I went with her bow as a soul weapon instead, but just found out Osiris has a burst boost so I should be able to guarantee it within 2 turns.

Notice that while Shingen's bow has a good skill (assuming it works on Nutaku), most players are better off with the offensive weapon. The 30% elemental attack is something you should NOT miss out on unless you're running double P2W Eidolons. Anubis isn't even out yet, so...

And the "problem" with PF is that Full Bursting is important. I remember mathing it out before, and it was roughly "no PF full burst deals same damage as PF 4-Hime burst", so your PF is entirely wasted if Shingen can't join the party. I don't remember was this math with or without elemental advantage though, as that's important for the full burst bonus. I can't be arsed to calc it again for now.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sorry for the noob question, but how is Shingen supposed to be used during burst times? Do you activate Provisional Forest and hope to get your burst back to 100 before the buff ends?

What bear said.

Also, the 2 other souls you can use PF reliably with on EX skill is with:
1. Arthur, cause skill 1 just gives you max burst instantly
2. Hercules, only with (insert element here ) Axe Neme Askal aka her assault axe, which gives +30 burst on skill 2 so you can burst the next turn if you get a double attack, or 2 turns later while the PF buff is still active.