Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Base attack is what the game tells you when you check the details of an eidolon. So a lv 100 Horus has an attack of 1926 (without any +1's on it).
When I said 'on-element eidolon', the idea I'm expressing is that the eidolon has the same element as the soul & kamihime in a given team. Your soul and the kamihime gain a bonus of 10% from an eidolon if they're of the same element. So for fire souls/kamihime, that lv 100 Horus gives 1926*1.1 ~= 2118 or 2119 atk (I'm not sure if the game rounds up or down). You can see this in the HP/atk listed for your party members in the team edit screen.

The first lv 100 Horus can still probably hang around in the sub slot if you have Belial, depending on what else you have. It also depends on how much you're prioritizing atk over more useful summon effects from your sub slots. And whether you should prioritize one over the other will be fluid; it'll change depending on your team/how strong you are and the given encounter.
I'd probably keep the Horus around for the time being just to give myself the option if I ever want it. I tend to prefer keeping my options open (even the really hypothetical niche ones). Others will have their own preferences/priorities.

As far as non-event eidolons whose effects are worth a second copy of? That is, you're already using one of them (presumably maxed), and you managed to get yet another? Well, the kaiser dragoons of course. Their effect is what, 2 turns of +30% element and 30% resist against whichever element they're advantageous against on a 8 turn cooldown? That's a fantastic enough effect that you'd gladly have multiple of. Outside of that obvious answer? Hmm...
Behemoth against certain encounters (if you can survive the cooldown). It's not often , but some fights are designed to have the enemy able to paralyze or petrify you (screw you, Medusa). Sure, your soul and some kamihime have debuff cleansing abilities. But you can't use them when petrified (again, screw you, Medusa). Or paralyzed for that matter, IIRC. Again, it's the sort of thing that doesn't come up often, but if it does, you'd really like some counters.
Takemikazuchi's +15 burst gauge every 9 turns. I could see having two of them in rotation for +15 burst every 4/5 turns. I wouldn't say optimal, but it can be neat if it's what you need to push you into reliably bursting once per Takemikazuchi summon.
Anubis eats an overdrive orb with an alleged success rate of 75% every 10 turns. I like orb removal abilities with decent success rates, unlike the absurdly low, might as well be non-existant accuracy of Jack Frost.

Thanks. Your answer is so helpful!
Is Kaiser Ok to be used at 0LB or only when you have 1LB given low stats (1600 at 0LB)

I think that kaiser dragoons are absolutely worth using in a sub slot at 0*. I also think that's the consensus, given how often they're emphasized to be the most important thing to grab in the eidolon orb exchange. And there's only 1 copy of each in the exchange, so if you never draw one from the gacha, then at best you'll have a 0* kaiser.
The +30 to elemental attack is pretty nice. But I personally look more at the other aspect of their summon effect.
If you can't take out the enemy before it can wipe you out with whatever its major attack is, 2 turns of 30% element resist is really good on its own. That's usually sufficient to save your butt on its own, but not always. Then it becomes absurdly good when you take advantage of stacking rules.

Scrub, here. Where do you guys get EXP for your weapons and eidolons? I’ve been getting everything from the gem gacha, since it provides a fair amount of R weapons I can use for skill EXP. The time-limited SP quests seem kinda unreliable, but is that what everyone’s doing? I feel like my luck is just pure trash, and I don’t have a very good impression of it. What’s the easiest way to get things to lv100?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Scrub, here. Where do you guys get EXP for your weapons and eidolons? I’ve been getting everything from the gem gacha, since it provides a fair amount of R weapons I can use for skill EXP. The time-limited SP quests seem kinda unreliable, but is that what everyone’s doing? I feel like my luck is just pure trash, and I don’t have a very good impression of it. What’s the easiest way to get things to lv100?

The best time to get enhance materials for weapons and eidolons is arguably union events. You'll farm hundreds to thousands of those levels and both R and SR materials drop like g̶i̶r̶l̶'̶s̶ ̶s̶k̶i̶r̶t̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶ crazy, so much so that you can pretty much max level every single weapon and eidolon on hand if you farm hard enough. Especially if you do union expert cycle memes, but I have a feeling that's dependent on the event since drops seem to differ for every union element.

R (not enhance) weapons serve a different purpose for you, however. You use them primarily to level up weapon skills, not weapon levels, although no reason to say you can't do both, that's double efficiency.

Double post:



Man, I finally understand why some of you guys love fire this much.

If only this element wasn't cucked to no end with events...

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

The best time to get enhance materials for weapons and eidolons is arguably union events. You'll farm hundreds to thousands of those levels and both R and SR materials drop like g̶i̶r̶l̶'̶s̶ ̶s̶k̶i̶r̶t̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶ crazy, so much so that you can pretty much max level every single weapon and eidolon on hand if you farm hard enough. Especially if you do union expert cycle memes, but I have a feeling that's dependent on the event since drops seem to differ for every union element.

R (not enhance) weapons serve a different purpose for you, however. You use them primarily to level up weapon skills, not weapon levels, although no reason to say you can't do both, that's double efficiency.

Yeah. Spamming the gacha easily gets most of my weapons to skill level 8, but the hard level struggles to inch past 50. I just reached the point where I could grind Advent events on my own easily, and uncapped all the SSR weapons to the max for the first time(s)... Now I'm just wondering how long it'll take me to level up those weapons and eidolons. It feels bad, having them sit at just half their potential level.

As Cobble said, as soon as you're even slightly strong then Union events will absolutely flood you in R and SR fodders. There's still one event before Gluttony, though.

And you new players have it easy. When I was young, we leveled up our weapons and Eidolons uphill, backwards, and in a blizzard! Union events didn't exist and Gem Gacha didn't provide fodder for shit.

Originally Posted by Slashley

As Cobble said, as soon as you're even slightly strong then Union events will absolutely flood you in R and SR fodders. There's still one event before Gluttony, though.

And you new players have it easy. When I was young, we leveled up our weapons and Eidolons uphill, backwards, and in a blizzard! Union events didn't exist and Gem Gacha didn't provide fodder for shit.

Although, you didn't have to divide your resources between so many things as today's new or newer players. Aside events, there are hero weapons to farm, farming gems to be able to get the base of all SLing, the R fods is also more demanding resource-wise since they got lower max AP and veterans also have the advantage of having piled up materials that they don't think much of, but is a concern for newer players like LB materials, cores for summoning rags and especially tier4 crystal mats.