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    Is it advisable to invest money in the new Gacha of Satan or better in the SSR guaranteed gachas? I'm hesitating because even though I want to have Satan, nobody tells me that I am not throwing away 3000 Nutaku Coins haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixcrew View Post
    Is it advisable to invest money in the new Gacha of Satan or better in the SSR guaranteed gachas? I'm hesitating because even though I want to have Satan, nobody tells me that I am not throwing away 3000 Nutaku Coins haha
    It depends on:

    1. How badly do you want Satan?
    2. How much are you willing to throw at this game?

    If 3k coins are all you have... throw those at the SSR guaranteed instead, you only have a 3% chance (and we don't exactly know if anything was changed with this gacha) of getting Satan. Or just save for the future miracle ticket so you actually have a pick. This kind of gacha exists mainly for the whales to MLB their Satan release weapon more so than for people to pull Satan.

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    Oh, it's another Exclusive gacha.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    --This kind of gacha exists mainly for the whales to MLB their Satan release weapon more so than for people to pull Satan.
    While that's true too... I still disagree with that. Miracle Tickets are 50 bucks to get the SSR you want. Exclusive gachas are 100 bucks to get the SSR that you want - on average. Please notice that you might spend 200 bucks or 400 bucks or 800 bucks if you're unlucky.

    Miracle Tickets > Exclusive Gacha > SSR Hime guaranteed (because there's too many bad Hime in there and dupes are possible) >>>>>> other options

    Still, if all you have is 30 bucks, it's probably not a good idea to spend it on Exclusive. You should be willing to spend at least 200 bucks if you're going that way. And even then, it's possible to get burned as it IS gambling.

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    Thanks for your opinion. Let's see, I was hestiating about it because I thought they would give you a boost in the odds of getting Satan, but when I read it was 3%, I said: Nope.
    I'll wait for the Miracle Tix and if I see that I want to spend more then I prolly use the SSR Guaranteed Gacha, because at least you always win something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixcrew View Post
    Thanks for your opinion. Let's see, I was hestiating about it because I thought they would give you a boost in the odds of getting Satan, but when I read it was 3%, I said: Nope.
    I'll wait for the Miracle Tix and if I see that I want to spend more then I prolly use the SSR Guaranteed Gacha, because at least you always win something
    It will boost the odds of you getting Satan. In a normal gacha your odds are (3 / 2 / number of SSR himes available)%, so it's pretty much sub 0.1%. This one simply guarantees that if you get an SSR, it will be Satan's release weapon. Assuming it's the base 3% rate, that's a 3% chance of getting Satan.

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    Supposedly we will get a tower raid that lets us farm LB mats for eye weapons. Any idea when we will get it, and how long it takes to farm?
    It is an event. On DMM version, it came 2nd Feb this year, so we can anticipate it to be around the same time next year.

    LB mats? If you mean bricks, those aren't just for eyes, they can limit break everything up to SSR weapons. Includes event (you shouldn't), hime (might be worth, check DMM wiki to see which ones are worth) and DE weapons.

    You need 10k tower points to grab the brick (+ books but that's irrelevant), but to describe the tower event requires another thread all on it's own, so maybe someone will do it another day (I'm lazy as all fuck). Spoilers: the content is a fucking nightmare to deal with.

    As far as the event spacing goes... I think tower happens every 2 months or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    It will boost the odds of you getting Satan. In a normal gacha your odds are (3 / 2 / number of SSR himes available)%, so it's pretty much sub 0.1%. This one simply guarantees that if you get an SSR, it will be Satan's release weapon. Assuming it's the base 3% rate, that's a 3% chance of getting Satan.



    It is an event. On DMM version, it came 2nd Feb this year, so we can anticipate it to be around the same time next year.

    LB mats? If you mean bricks, those aren't just for eyes, they can limit break everything up to SSR weapons. Includes event (you shouldn't), hime (might be worth, check DMM wiki to see which ones are worth) and DE weapons.

    You need 10k tower points to grab the brick (+ books but that's irrelevant), but to describe the tower event requires another thread all on it's own, so maybe someone will do it another day (I'm lazy as all fuck). Spoilers: the content is a fucking nightmare to deal with.

    As far as the event spacing goes... I think tower happens every 2 months or so.
    Yes, but if I make 3 attempts and bad luck accompanies me without getting anything good, the anger that I will get with the game will be very big and I prefer to avoid it hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    You need 10k tower points to grab the brick (+ books but that's irrelevant), but to describe the tower event requires another thread all on it's own, so maybe someone will do it another day (I'm lazy as all fuck). Spoilers: the content is a fucking nightmare to deal with.
    And if I've understood right, 10k points per Tower the max, and thus is near impossible. If you don't have a P2W Eidolon of that element, forget about it. If you lucked out on one P2W Eidolon but you don't have all the SSRs of that element, forget about it.

    Tower points carry on from Tower to Tower though, so free players can get a brick starting from the second one. Like, I'd imagine that getting ~8k points should be doable for free players, so you'll miss a brick from the first and the sixth Towers.

    And reminder that I don't actually play DMM, so I could be talking out of my ass.

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    The only people that are gonna have issues are those that have unfinished grids and run around on a lower powerlevel (sub 30k). After Floor 5 the difficulty ramps up quite a bit and you can have yourself locked away from progressing.

    People with like 40k and more and a solid Grid will progress further but may be having trouble at around floor 10 - 11 as it goes up a good notch again there. This is kinda the goal to reach with the hope to rank inbetween 351 - 500.

    If you manage to complete floor 11 doing all quests until this point and rank between 351 - 500, you gain 10k+ points in total (6650 from quests + 3500 from ranking), but it may take some effort.

    My first attempt on Tower was on the Thunder one with a 25k team (and lower cause of using R Hime for other floors because of the lockout-mechanic of used hime) and I managed to get past the first boss to Floor 6, which was the end of the road for me. Couldnt get further at this point as I was just to fresh and hadnt anything to really work with in there. Still, I got over 3k medals in total and could get me something.

    Most important just is: Dont rush things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixcrew View Post
    Is it advisable to invest money in the new Gacha of Satan or better in the SSR guaranteed gachas? I'm hesitating because even though I want to have Satan, nobody tells me that I am not throwing away 3000 Nutaku Coins haha
    Probability to get SSR from single pull - 3%
    Probability to get SSR from 10x pull - ~26%
    True statistical cost - ~11500 star coins.

    I'd say miracle ticket is a lot better from economical standpoint.

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