Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What soul weapon should I use? I have all souls less Morgan-line and Shingen (need 1 more event).

I'm "main" fire with fire beelzebub // hepahestus, kagutsuchi, argos, agni, fortune, motu // konohana and Taikoubou, and I have Belial. My fire grid (9 weapons) is 114% assault (with 1 pride included) and 10% HP.

Versus "hard" content I usually have 250% fire elemental damage (with fire beel) or 215% (with Agni) if I need to turtle. So, I believe (i can be wrong) soul weapons with elemental damage aren't useful.

I'm thinking of Shingen's HP Lance because my team is essentially SR (x3.5 bust damage) and is slow in bust generation. However, I ignore if it exists a soft/hard cap which will make useless the +500%. (I supose yes because exceed weapons)

So...go with Herc?

I wish I had a good answer for you.
First off, 500% burst damage is a hard cap, but I don't think that's a problem for you. From Fire, I can only think of Uriel who couldn't get advantage of it due to her own stacks (which I assume are included with PF). So you don't really need to worry about that cap. If you use Shingen's HP weapon then half of Exceed effect is wasted yes, but remember that Exceed is effectively a DUAL SKILL - you still get the increased damage cap effect!

Second, while it's true that elemental damage isn't nearly as good for you as it is for others, please remember that for Hercules, the offensive weapon is just outright... better. Herc and Morgan have a offensive weapon with a better skill than the defensive one. For Shingen, the weapons fulfill a different role. For you... I think the offensive weapon is the better skill. I don't think anyone from that group can give Shingen burst, right? I can't think of any Fire Hime that does that. Anyway, that means that you'll need the offensive weapon to reliably USE PF in the first place.

Third, debuffs seem to be a little issue for you. You don't have Mars, so you're stuck at 15% Heph and 20% Konohana, and running a R is never great. That means that you'd need Herc for the debuff cap.


So I'd run Herc with the offensive weapon. It's not quite the ideal solution, but I don't really see any ideal solutions for you.

Thank you!

Just one note:

"I don't think anyone from that group can give Shingen burst, right? I can't think of any Fire Hime that does that"

Taikoubou can give +35% BG to one ally. So, technically, i could reliably use PF, but she's R. However, as you say, I'm stuck at -35% Def (without Vine) if I don't use Herc.

Running Shingen with HP weapon is also an option then, as you could run Sniper Shot and drop Konohana for Taikoubou. Still, that setup also makes me cringe, as banking on a Soul weapon which binds you to use an R isn't particularly great. Aslo no -50% Def. Vine would cover some of that, though.

It's great that you have Belial, so you should do fine with an SR party even, but man. Fire sure could use some of their OP as fuck SSRs (Svarog, Uriel), or the support SSRs (Amaterasu, Mars). Or just overall powerhouses like Ares or the (long time from now) upcoming Awakened Acala. Alas, such is the life of Those Who Do Not Whale.

Does Assault skill increase atk display in party view?

Originally Posted by nut

Does Assault skill increase atk display in party view?

Edit page only displays the base of the damage (and HP) calculation, basically your initial stats. Every other variable only shows its effect in-battle (that includes assault as well, to directly answer the question).

Originally Posted by Slashley

(long time from now) upcoming Awakened Acala.

As far as I'm aware, Acala gets awakened in 2 months or less.

Correction: 3 months.

AYYY yet again backstabbed by a union member because fucking dramaclub want as much whales as they can and woah a friend we had for a year just upped and left after one invitation- thanks bam

im glad i mean that little to my friends that they'd leave friends behind just for some extra jewels and eye shards on union events

Originally Posted by Kitty

AYYY yet again backstabbed by a union member because fucking dramaclub want as much whales as they can and woah a friend we had for a year just upped and left after one invitation- thanks bam

im glad i mean that little to my friends that they'd leave friends behind just for some extra jewels and eye shards on union events

Maybe if you were a stronger Union, they wouldn't need to leave.

The simple fact is, in a system where higher rankings means more rewards, the strong are going to flock towards the strong.

That's only natural. Our Union (DarkAngel) had a couple of strong players, and among them two or three pulled P2W eidolons, so they said "fuck it" when quit the union only to be recluted by stronger ones.

I don't mind, to be quite honest... but it's stupid as shit to do that.

if they are willing to P2W then they have the right to call the shots. thats reality. on the flip side, the F2P guys are riding the coattails of these whales. its win-win.

everyone here knows that when u have a 100% eido, you're gonna get a friend list full of other 100% eidos. whales are gonna befriend whales, sooner or later.

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meanwhile, what do you guys think of Mordred's Relic wpns? The ATK wpn comes with mode guage down vs the HP wpn comes with dispel. what would be your preferences?